Hey! Keep it down, will ya? I'm trying to be miserable over here. It's my right!

- NonE

I had been wondering when Captain Trips got banned, it seems Stefan has started to set it up here.

what Trips can do best is state that if Stefan can't prove PCRS' (and the others') mental health problems and debating flaws, it is not UPB to demand of Trips that he prove Stef's motivations. Also, Trips did not say that Stef was dishonest (although his words could very well be taken to imply that, he is not bound by this interpretation)

Stef totally knows Trips is right though

I hope btw that now that PCRS has experienced Stef in this way that he will reflect on how a lot of other people got angry and frustrated with Stef or called him on his debating techniques, and then got banned, either because they got angry in public or because Stef couldnt have critics around anymore. I mean, PCRS may very well be disgusted wityh what has been said by people on LM about Stef and FDRbut it is true that a lot of people who post or have posted here had similar interactions with Stef as PCRS recently had, and so that PCRS understands that not all Stef critics got banned for being abusive, but exactly for pointing out dishonest behavior in Stef. (in the determinism debate, UPB debate, Ron paul debates, drugs debate, etc.)

Moreover, Trips' comment here is brilliant, and Stef's reply is so petty, so helpless...

better still, Trips should ask Stefan whether it is a universal principle that people should be able to back up their accusations, and if so, whether if Trips can give examples in which Stefan did not do that Stef will apologize for those as well

Just an aside, I get really irritated when people try to use randomness (quantum uncertainty) to rescue free will. Randomness is the opposite of intentional, willful action. It's absurd!

I think it's quite hopeless too

If nothing else the free will vs. determinist debate is completely metaphysical. There is no device or technique you change depending on your belief in either.

Normally this means you can pick whichever one makes you happy, as that's literally the only application of the concept. Apparently a lot of people get upset if you like free will, however. I really don't understand this.

Incidentally, true free will would be entirely unpredictable. Though individual particles are indeed mostly unpredictable, in aggregate they form a very nice probability distribution which is exactly predictable. Because of this, even though we can't calculate the distribution by measuring one particle, we can conclude that it follows that distribution regardless.

then again, back when Diamond was the highest donation category he had no problem in banning quite a few Diamond donators. I think the fact that PCRS really is/was a hardcore FDR'er with friends in FDR who also (partially) agree with him on determinism, is more problematic for Stef.