Globe and Mail article by Tu Thanh Ha on Stefan Molyneux

Alex

Danny Shahar wrote:

Haha I'm not down on myself. If I knew everything there was to know, there wouldn't be much left to accomplish besides telling everyone else. I find the gaps in my knowledge to be exciting; I know I'm probably not right about everything I believe, and in some areas I'm not even sure what to believe in the first place. That's what keeps me interested!

When I read this page, starting with Conrad's comments above, this was the kind of reply I was thinking of.

There is a time for confidence, and a time for concession and reflection. It seems that ideally we go forward with our ideas in a way that is harmonious with our total values, and always with the idea that any part of the value chain may be altered. Grace is only the ability to do this without disturbing too many values in the changing of one or a dozen.

My biggest beef with Stef's approach to knowledge is his overconfidence in the conversation scenario (albeit demonstrated with 'curiosity') which betrays a rigidity not in accord with basic open mindedness. The ability to rationalize around every threat is clever, but fundamentally hamstringing. I think we each could tell a tale or two about that. Well, I know I could.

It is folly to read non-confidence in Danny's statement. Wise humility is a proud thing, though I suppose this goes against the common (and yes, fallacious) connotation. I know you know that C., but I can't help but wonder at some misunderstanding around this issue, mixed with humor.

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ExyPhylo · Number of posts: 1180 Registration date: 2007-12-12

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Chanker Soar from Bonanza, Canada writes: Right. So: An emotionally loaded, highly manipulative article in a highly public paper, accusing one man in Canada of being emotionally loaded, and highly manipulative toward the emotionally immature.

All the while, sending emotionally immature readers into an emotionally loaded, and highly manipulated tailspin, who then end up rushing to the comments section to assuage their anxiety, by posting here.

Predictable, really. Totally predictable.
You unconscious types really make it hard for me to continue my adherence to Free Will...

Any guesses ?

Conrad

Alex wrote:

Danny Shahar wrote:

Haha I'm not down on myself. If I knew everything there was to know, there wouldn't be much left to accomplish besides telling everyone else. I find the gaps in my knowledge to be exciting; I know I'm probably not right about everything I believe, and in some areas I'm not even sure what to believe in the first place. That's what keeps me interested!

When I read this page, starting with Conrad's comments above, this was the kind of reply I was thinking of.

There is a time for confidence, and a time for concession and reflection. It seems that ideally we go forward with our ideas in a way that is harmonious with our total values, and always with the idea that any part of the value chain may be altered. Grace is only the ability to do this without disturbing too many values in the changing of one or a dozen.

My biggest beef with Stef's approach to knowledge is his overconfidence in the conversation scenario (albeit demonstrated with 'curiosity') which betrays a rigidity not in accord with basic open mindedness. The ability to rationalize around every threat is clever, but fundamentally hamstringing. I think we each could tell a tale or two about that. Well, I know I could.

It is folly to read non-confidence in Danny's statement. Wise humility is a proud thing, though I suppose this goes against the common (and yes, fallacious) connotation. I know you know that C., but I can't help but wonder at some misunderstanding around this issue, mixed with humor.

He's in on it too Danny! Ditch him!

Danny Shahar · Number of posts: 948 Registration date: 2007-12-30

*shrinks back in horror*

Are you...all...reptoids?!

Stewart · Number of posts: 1186 Location: Boston, MA Registration date: 2008-04-03

Danny Shahar wrote:

Are you...all...reptoids?!

Obviously you haven't seen any of the group photos taken at the last Liberating Minds conference...

Admin · Admin Number of posts: 131 Registration date: 2007-07-21

That picture was for Reptile Kings only Stewart.

I can't have content that is only intended for donators who provide me with my only source of income, distributed publicly.

Danny Shahar · Number of posts: 948 Registration date: 2007-12-30

It's like the higher levels of Scientology!

[Reptile King = Tyrannosaurus Rex?]

Stewart · Number of posts: 1186 Location: Boston, MA Registration date: 2008-04-03

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Oh gosh, sorry! I thought I was posting in the Imperial Lizardry forum. Please don't remove my tail!

If you just re-affirm that I am an original thinker I will forgive you

[admin note: damn, I thought I was replying to your message but it seems I was editing your message (oh, the powers of being and administrator), so sadly your original content is forever gone]

Stewart · Number of posts: 1186 Location: Boston, MA Registration date: 2008-04-03

My 80s cartoon references are apparently no match for your saurian editing skills. I submit.

Zebra Foal · Number of posts: 877 Registration date: 2007-08-16

Stewart wrote:

My 80s cartoon references are apparently no match for your saurian editing skills. I submit.

Why? Why reptiles? I don't get it...

Conrad

why not reptiles, Zeb? You have something against reptiles? What, is it the color of their skin? Huh?

Danny Shahar · Number of posts: 948 Registration date: 2007-12-30

Zebra, this should provide all the background you need.

QuestEon · Number of posts: 552 Registration date: 2008-03-25

Zebra Foal wrote:

Stewart wrote:

My 80s cartoon references are apparently no match for your saurian editing skills. I submit.

Why? Why reptiles? I don't get it...

Because Reptile is a total bad-ass!

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Zebra Foal · Number of posts: 877 Registration date: 2007-08-16

Danny Shahar wrote:

Zebra, this should provide all the background you need.

Thank you, Danny!

But: uh...er........

Stewart · Number of posts: 1186 Location: Boston, MA Registration date: 2008-04-03

QuestEon wrote:

Because Reptile is a total bad-ass!

Oh man, you totally one-upped my avatar action. You win again.

FATALITY!