Go..DTomboy ......!

brainjunky · Subject: Re: Go..DTomboy ......! Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:52 pm

dtomboy wrote:

mike barskey wrote:

Welcome back, Debbie. I remember reading a few of your posts on FDR looong ago and admiring your confidence and ability, and wishing you'd come over here. You did, but then disappeared. Thanks, Google, for reminding her of LiMi!

dtomboy wrote:

...I want to keep thinking and learning and pondering and I just don't get that there.

I'm hoping you'll keep thinking and learning and pondering here, and that your ideas will keep me thinking and learning and pondering.

Eddie1

Thank you Mike. I may stick around for awhile, but my time can be limited. We'll see.

Debbie

Hi Debbie,

I was wondering if you have been curious towards him i.e. have you asked him why he spanked you? What his thought process was? From what i read from you: i get the impression that you've discussed 'spanking' as an option, rather than talking about the motivation. (spanking, no spanking OR why spank, why not spank)

Greetings,

Brainjunky

sutible4livestok · Subject: Re: Go..DTomboy ......! Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:37 pm

Brainjunky, what is your occupation?

Dylboz · Number of posts: 2014 Registration date: 2007-09-20

http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/thread/125090.aspx

Stefan Molyneux wrote:

DanielOR: wrote:

In general, the rage results from fear - the fear of being attacked for making a mistake, by your parents, when you were a child.
I do have a fear of making mistakes. But I can't recall my parents ever attacking me for making a mistake.

That's just not true, I'm afraid.

If you're not willing to be honest, there's not much point in posting here.

I got banned for saying roughly those words to Stef. This is something that has long bothered me about him and FDR. No evidence or testimony of any parents' goodness is accepted as fact. Even the tentative assertion that you can't remember abuse is flat out rejected, and your integrity is called into question. This guy is called a liar, and effectively threatened with banning if he should continue along those lines. This kind of thing is revealing, because it puts the lie to his statements about being "pro-family." He just does not believe there are any decent parents out there. Period.

Furthermore, the hypocrisy of calling someone a liar, when he himself plays so fast and loose with the facts, is infuriating. But what else shoudl I expect? Anyway, I was just struck by the ease and indelicacy with which Stef accused DanielOR, a long time poster there, of dishonesty.

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dtomboy · Number of posts: 9 Registration date: 2007-10-22

brainjunky wrote:

Hi Debbie,

I was wondering if you have been curious towards him i.e. have you asked him why he spanked you? What his thought process was? From what i read from you: i get the impression that you've discussed 'spanking' as an option, rather than talking about the motivation. (spanking, no spanking OR why spank, why not spank)

Greetings,

Brainjunky

I'm not sure I'm clear on what you are asking. We didn't really talk about it a lot. I know he spanked because that's what he thought a good parent did to "discipline" a child. He didn't know any better, that's how he was raised. And I guess we didn't really need to talk about it much because actions speak louder than words anyway. It was obvious my kids were healthy, happy and thriving even though we did not spank them. What he did was in the past and he did things based on the information he had at the time.

Does that answer your question?

Debbie

Free Radical · Number of posts: 170 Registration date: 2007-09-27

Stefan Molyneux wrote:

If you're not willing to be honest, there's not much point in posting here.

Not to mention the hypocrisy of, a few hours after he said the above, banning someone for being honest.

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ExyPhylo · Number of posts: 1180 Registration date: 2007-12-12

Dylboz wrote:

http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/thread/125090.aspx

Stefan Molyneux wrote:

DanielOR: wrote:

In general, the rage results from fear - the fear of being attacked for making a mistake, by your parents, when you were a child.
I do have a fear of making mistakes. But I can't recall my parents ever attacking me for making a mistake.

That's just not true, I'm afraid.

If you're not willing to be honest, there's not much point in posting here.

I got banned for saying roughly those words to Stef. This is something that has long bothered me about him and FDR. No evidence or testimony of any parents' goodness is accepted as fact. Even the tentative assertion that you can't remember abuse is flat out rejected, and your integrity is called into question. This guy is called a liar, and effectively threatened with banning if he should continue along those lines. This kind of thing is revealing, because it puts the lie to his statements about being "pro-family." He just does not believe there are any decent parents out there. Period.

Furthermore, the hypocrisy of calling someone a liar, when he himself plays so fast and loose with the facts, is infuriating. But what else shoudl I expect? Anyway, I was just struck by the ease and indelicacy with which Stef accused DanielOR, a long time poster there, of dishonesty.

I will give Stef one thing he's consistent.
Daniel and Stef had it out some time ago, and there seemed to be amends made. Stef "will" not let go of perceived wrong doing.
My guess is Stef was waiting for a more appropriate time.

Conrad · Subject: Re: Go..DTomboy ......! Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:05 am

Dylboz wrote:

http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/thread/125090.aspx

Stefan Molyneux wrote:

DanielOR: wrote:

In general, the rage results from fear - the fear of being attacked for making a mistake, by your parents, when you were a child.
I do have a fear of making mistakes. But I can't recall my parents ever attacking me for making a mistake.

That's just not true, I'm afraid.

If you're not willing to be honest, there's not much point in posting here.

I got banned for saying roughly those words to Stef. This is something that has long bothered me about him and FDR. No evidence or testimony of any parents' goodness is accepted as fact. Even the tentative assertion that you can't remember abuse is flat out rejected, and your integrity is called into question. This guy is called a liar, and effectively threatened with banning if he should continue along those lines. This kind of thing is revealing, because it puts the lie to his statements about being "pro-family." He just does not believe there are any decent parents out there. Period.

Furthermore, the hypocrisy of calling someone a liar, when he himself plays so fast and loose with the facts, is infuriating. But what else shoudl I expect? Anyway, I was just struck by the ease and indelicacy with which Stef accused DanielOR, a long time poster there, of dishonesty.

DanielOR is not a donator though, that may play a role as well, he's not part of the inner circle and he does not constitute income for Stef. but phew, this was a pretty damn brazen remark to make even for Stef. could be though tha he has more info on Daniel than we do, but still, the implicit threat of a ban is quite astonishing

btw, seems that there are fewer and fewer posts on the main board, does that mean that most of the action is now on the Premium board or that there is jus less action in general?

Conrad · Subject: Re: Go..DTomboy ......! Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:11 am

ExyPhylo wrote:

Dylboz wrote:

http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/thread/125090.aspx

Stefan Molyneux wrote:

DanielOR: wrote:

In general, the rage results from fear - the fear of being attacked for making a mistake, by your parents, when you were a child.
I do have a fear of making mistakes. But I can't recall my parents ever attacking me for making a mistake.

That's just not true, I'm afraid.

If you're not willing to be honest, there's not much point in posting here.

I got banned for saying roughly those words to Stef. This is something that has long bothered me about him and FDR. No evidence or testimony of any parents' goodness is accepted as fact. Even the tentative assertion that you can't remember abuse is flat out rejected, and your integrity is called into question. This guy is called a liar, and effectively threatened with banning if he should continue along those lines. This kind of thing is revealing, because it puts the lie to his statements about being "pro-family." He just does not believe there are any decent parents out there. Period.

Furthermore, the hypocrisy of calling someone a liar, when he himself plays so fast and loose with the facts, is infuriating. But what else shoudl I expect? Anyway, I was just struck by the ease and indelicacy with which Stef accused DanielOR, a long time poster there, of dishonesty.

I will give Stef one thing he's consistent.
Daniel and Stef had it out some time ago, and there seemed to be amends made. Stef "will" not let go of perceived wrong doing.
My guess is Stef was waiting for a more appropriate time.

you mean the thing re Premium content?

brainjunky · Subject: Re: Go..DTomboy ......! Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:45 am

dtomboy wrote:

brainjunky wrote:

Hi Debbie,

I was wondering if you have been curious towards him i.e. have you asked him why he spanked you? What his thought process was? From what i read from you: i get the impression that you've discussed 'spanking' as an option, rather than talking about the motivation. (spanking, no spanking OR why spank, why not spank)

Greetings,

Brainjunky

I'm not sure I'm clear on what you are asking. We didn't really talk about it a lot. I know he spanked because that's what he thought a good parent did to "discipline" a child. He didn't know any better, that's how he was raised. And I guess we didn't really need to talk about it much because actions speak louder than words anyway. It was obvious my kids were healthy, happy and thriving even though we did not spank them. What he did was in the past and he did things based on the information he had at the time.

Does that answer your question?

Debbie

It does tell me that you haven't really talked about it. I can tell you all the things to why or why not, but if you haven't really talked it out, than it's all quite meaningless.

Brainjunky

dtomboy · Number of posts: 9 Registration date: 2007-10-22

brainjunky wrote:

dtomboy wrote:

brainjunky wrote:

Hi Debbie,

I was wondering if you have been curious towards him i.e. have you asked him why he spanked you? What his thought process was? From what i read from you: i get the impression that you've discussed 'spanking' as an option, rather than talking about the motivation. (spanking, no spanking OR why spank, why not spank)

Greetings,

Brainjunky

I'm not sure I'm clear on what you are asking. We didn't really talk about it a lot. I know he spanked because that's what he thought a good parent did to "discipline" a child. He didn't know any better, that's how he was raised. And I guess we didn't really need to talk about it much because actions speak louder than words anyway. It was obvious my kids were healthy, happy and thriving even though we did not spank them. What he did was in the past and he did things based on the information he had at the time.

Does that answer your question?

Debbie

It does tell me that you haven't really talked about it. I can tell you all the things to why or why not, but if you haven't really talked it out, than it's all quite meaningless.

Brainjunky

What are you talking about? Meaningless to whom?

Debbie

QuestEon · Number of posts: 552 Registration date: 2008-03-25

Conrad wrote:

DanielOR is not a donator though, that may play a role as well, he's not part of the inner circle and he does not constitute income for Stef. but phew, this was a pretty damn brazen remark to make even for Stef. could be though tha he has more info on Daniel than we do, but still, the implicit threat of a ban is quite astonishing.

They're very angry about his refusal to donate (banning has been discussed) and I don't think he's aware how much he's pushing their buttons. Note the exchange here between DanielOR and Greg. I wonder if the "certain people" Nathan is referring to later includes DanielOR.

Conrad wrote:

btw, seems that there are fewer and fewer posts on the main board, does that mean that most of the action is now on the Premium board or that there is jus less action in general?

I've been wondering that. Seems ominously quiet... silent

reddeerrick · Subject: Re: Go..DTomboy ......! Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:04 am

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Conrad · Subject: Re: Go..DTomboy ......! Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:06 am

excellent farewell post ('cept for the last few sentences)

ExyPhylo · Number of posts: 1180 Registration date: 2007-12-12

Conrad wrote:

you mean the thing re Premium content?

I was referring to the way Stef approached Daniel in this thread
http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/post/118327.aspx

Daniel was a donator and it was confirmed by Stef (stef had to eat cake).

My thoughts are Stef (or Greg or Nathan or Suzy) did not like him and his reason for banning then could not be substantiated. So, he waited for the next ridiculous thing to call him on.

have a look

QuestEon · Number of posts: 552 Registration date: 2008-03-25

ExyPhylo wrote:

My thoughts are Stef (or Greg or Nathan or Suzy) did not like him and his reason for banning then could not be substantiated. So, he waited for the next ridiculous thing to call him on.

You are correct, sir. This is the one that did it.