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ExyPhylo



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PostSubject: Karma Chameleon   Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:38 am

GALATIANS 6: 7-9 (KJV)
7: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Stef wrote:
I wrote back:

Yes, certainly I do have experience with teenagers, I was a teacher's assistant in a high school -- but I think more appropriately, and importantly, and what you are kind of not saying, is that as a parent I will not spend the first 18 years of my child's life terrorizing him by kicking in windows, smashing up rooms, attacking pets, and screaming at the top of my lungs.

As a parent, I understand that I will reap what I sow.

emphasis mine

Why oh why do we use biblical/mystical terms when we condemn the religious/mystic? bugs me like bugs bug me...
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PostSubject: Re: Karma Chameleon   Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:16 pm

Isn't condemning a charactaristic of religion?
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PostSubject: Re: Karma Chameleon   Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:58 pm

Good point; It is a characteristic of religion, state and society as a whole. Though given man's historical existence I am sure it is largely rooted in religion.
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PostSubject: Re: Karma Chameleon   Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:37 pm

ExyPhylo wrote:
Good point; It is a characteristic of religion, state and society as a whole. Though given man's historical existence I am sure it is largely rooted in religion.


Could you explain to me what the (mere) historical existence of man has to do with condemning as a charactaristic rooted in religion?

Also, what struck me as weird is that to me it seemed you are putting religion and religious on the same foot by saying the following:
Why oh why do we use biblical/mystical terms when we condemn the religious/mystic? bugs me like bugs bug me...

In other words: Why oh why do we use terms used by religion when we condemn the religious/mystic? bugs me like bugs bug me...

Religion can have wise lessons, sayings or whatever else.
Religous on the other hand, especially Christians, have to believe every single word written. Because the bible is the word of God and who are they (humans, finite) to change God's words/will.


P.S.: Can i assume you're not listening to (Western) music, since its origins lie at the Roman Catholic Church? Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Karma Chameleon   Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:04 pm

I have no idea where your coming from, BrainJunky.
Rather I will make my point, I find it hypocritical based on my knowledge of the original post quote. For Stef to use that phrase which is biblical and there for religious and ultimately in his words rooted in evil, is confirming he sees some good in those lessons and there for it is not ALL evil.

I disagree that all xtians believe every single word written, that's an assumption. Many are selective and pick and choose what are as you say "wise lessons".

Ultimately I am pointing out how chameleon like he is. If he feels those terms will win his point he will use them.
(if as you imply Stef can pick and choose, why do you assume Xtians don't?)
... Like I said, it bugs me like bugs bug me..(saying courtesy of C-rad).

ps. When you say Western do you mean Euro/North American music or Country?
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PostSubject: Re: Karma Chameleon   Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:56 pm

ExyPhylo wrote:
I have no idea where your coming from, BrainJunky.
Rather I will make my point, I find it hypocritical based on my knowledge of the original post quote. For Stef to use that phrase which is biblical and there for religious and ultimately in his words rooted in evil, is confirming he sees some good in those lessons and there for it is not ALL evil.


My point:

Statement: We condemn religious.
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Conclusion: We should not quote from religion.

= lol to me

ExyPhylo wrote:
I disagree that all xtians believe every single word written, that's an assumption. Many are selective and pick and choose what are as you say "wise lessons".


You can not be selective towards the word of the Almighty. If you do not believe every written word in the bible, then you are not a Christian. There is no way out of this. Believe it (fully) or not.

ExyPhylo wrote:

Ultimately I am pointing out how chameleon like he is. If he feels those terms will win his point he will use them.
(if as you imply Stef can pick and choose, why do you assume Xtians don't?)
... Like I said, it bugs me like bugs bug me..(saying courtesy of C-rad).


I got that. Though i thought this point was quite weak. Especially the last sentence

ExyPhylo wrote:
"Why oh why do we use biblical/mystical terms when we condemn the religious/mystic? bugs me like bugs bug me...)


ExyPhylo wrote:
ps. When you say Western do you mean Euro/North American music or Country?


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