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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:15 pm

I don't think Stef said that about the cats and their owners, I think it was a joke by Putty Tat
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:17 pm

Xeonious wrote:
Free Radical wrote:


Did he actually say this?

No. It's a funny, said by Putty Tat and found amongst the other products at http://www.cafepress.com/fdrcultwatch
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:23 pm

I have thought about Stef & Christina not having any pets and Stef, to my knowledge, never having had a dog or a cat. Especially dogs can in one's childhood be a wonderful source of affection and camaraderie, especially when the family itself is fucked up.
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:31 pm

Not having any pets, unless living or financial conditions preclude it, denotes a lack of empathy, perhaps a little self-centeredness to a degree that is unhealthy. Pets are very important specially for young children, they teach lessons about life, death, responsibility, empathy and caring that can't really be learned any other way. That's just my opinion. I'm sure there are some very nice, emotionally healthy folks who never had a pet, nor the desire to get one, but I am always a little suspicious of people who don't like them.

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:38 pm

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Not having any pets, unless living or financial conditions preclude it, denotes a lack of empathy, perhaps a little self-centeredness to a degree that is unhealthy. Pets are very important specially for young children, they teach lessons about life, death, responsibility, empathy and caring that can't really be learned any other way. That's just my opinion. I'm sure there are some very nice, emotionally healthy folks who never had a pet, nor the desire to get one, but I am always a little suspicious of people who don't like them.


They could be mentally healthy, however I think its unlikely they are healthy as far as allergies :-p Everyone I meet who is allergic to everything grew up without pets.
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:51 pm

Yeah, the formulation goes like this:

(Hyper-clean Childhood) - (Furry Pets) = Asthma + Allergies

God made dirt and dirt don't hurt. Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:12 pm

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God made dirt and dirt don't hurt. Razz


Yeah, Dyl, but remember, God made Stef, too! tongue

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:27 pm

Dylboz wrote:
Yeah, the formulation goes like this:

(Hyper-clean Childhood) - (Furry Pets) = Asthma + Allergies

God made dirt and dirt don't hurt. Razz

if I'm not mistaken (and of course I am not) that hypothesis has been thoroughly debunked. So much for the benefits of my mother pushing my face in the mud every day.
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:14 pm

Oh, I'd like to see that science, because I have never seen anything to counter that claim. I always thought a healthy immune system requires some childhood illness, or you'd drop dead from your first flu. Isn't that the theory for purposely infecting your kids with the Chicken Pox (ookee mouth, anyone?), because it's way worse for adults and causes horrible shingles that are life-threatening in old age? Links, please! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:16 pm

Dylboz wrote:
Oh, I'd like to see that science, because I have never seen anything to counter that claim. I always thought a healthy immune system requires some childhood illness, or you'd drop dead from your first flu. Isn't that the theory for purposely infecting your kids with the Chicken Pox (ookee mouth, anyone?), because it's way worse for adults and causes horrible shingles that are life-threatening in old age? Links, please! Very Happy


I will admit, what I said was Anecdotal, so If I have been led in the wrong direction, I'd love to know(seriously).
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:17 pm

Dylboz wrote:
Oh, I'd like to see that science, because I have never seen anything to counter that claim. I always thought a healthy immune system requires some childhood illness, or you'd drop dead from your first flu. Isn't that the theory for purposely infecting your kids with the Chicken Pox (ookee mouth, anyone?), because it's way worse for adults and causes horrible shingles that are life-threatening in old age? Links, please! Very Happy


DYL!!!! Do you subscribe to the theory of homeopathic "medicine"? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's podcast addressing the Guardian Article   Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:40 pm

Absolutely not. I never did finish up my "Homeopathy Challenge" because Mackler, the guy who spawned the idea after a huge thread at another forum suddenly disappeared under pretty shady circumstances. I thought there wasn't much use in proving a point to a guy who wasn't around.

But, I do think the germ theory of medicine is accurate, including the model for the action of the immune system, and I also understand that asthma and severe seasonal allergies are both immune problems, with excessive immune responses causing potentially life threatening symptoms.

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