"Stef's Wikipedia page deleted :("

lordmetroid · Number of posts: 212 Registration date: 2007-08-18

The user patience private messaged me on this forum. Saying good job on the wikipedia article and I replied it wasn't anything personal and patience then made a reply stating okay, that is cool...

No one can not see my IP on wikipedia.

ExyPhylo · Number of posts: 1180 Registration date: 2007-12-12

If the wiki tale is true. Stef posted on his own forum to his members that it didn't matter to him. This would prove that it does in fact matter.

SM wrote:

According to their criteria, it actually makes good sense I think for me to not be in Wikipedia, and I never got any referrals from there anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me.

Dylboz · Number of posts: 2014 Registration date: 2007-09-20

lordmetroid wrote:

Also patience private messaged me on this forum regarding the wikipedia page so excuse me if I may be insulting you patience but I don't find you to reliably not be Stefan.

Are you suggesting that patience is actually Stefan? I really don't think so. patience is the mother of an FDR member who has deFOOed her. I believe she was involved in the Guardian UK article, but I am not certain of that. I think she'd be pretty insulted to be confused for him, and considering all that she's written here if she was Stef's sock puppet, it would be a really long way to go for very little return.

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Conrad · Subject: Re: "Stef's Wikipedia page deleted :(" Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:03 pm

i think this may be more of a problem with the structure of LordMetroid's sentence. Or do you really think Patience is Stefan? I would bet quite a bit of money and 3 pet goats on her not being Stef.

Dylboz · Number of posts: 2014 Registration date: 2007-09-20

ExyPhylo wrote:

If the wiki tale is true. Stef posted on his own forum to his members that it didn't matter to him. This would prove that it does in fact matter.

SM wrote:

According to their criteria, it actually makes good sense I think for me to not be in Wikipedia, and I never got any referrals from there anyway, so it doesn't really matter to me.

Uh, Stefan is clearly lying when he says that, because as you can see below, he thinks that he meets several of their criteria, especially the one I have bolded for emphasis.

Wikipedia wrote:

Creative professionals
Shortcut:
WP:CREATIVE
Scientists, academics, economists, professors, authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, engineers, and other creative professionals:
The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by their peers or successors.
The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique.
The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
The person's work either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums, or had works in many significant libraries.
See Wikipedia:Notability (academics) for guidelines on academics

Surely achieving the most important philosophical breakthrough in the history of mankind, authoring the most earth shattering book ever written, and "slaying the dragon" of irrational, arbitrary morality qualifies one to be listed in Wikipedia, no?

geek

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ExyPhylo · Number of posts: 1180 Registration date: 2007-12-12

Dylboz wrote:

Uh, Stefan is clearly lying when he says that, because as you can see below, he thinks that he meets several of their criteria, especially the one I have bolded for emphasis.

Wikipedia wrote:

(c) has won significant critical attentionSee Wikipedia:Notability (academics) for guidelines on academics

Surely achieving the most important philosophical breakthrough in the history of mankind, authoring the most earth shattering book ever written, and "slaying the dragon" of irrational, arbitrary morality qualifies one to be listed in Wikipedia, no?

Well, Xtina, Nathan and Greg did review him.

lordmetroid · Number of posts: 212 Registration date: 2007-08-18

I don't know if patience is Stefan or not and it doesn't really matter for me if that would be the case. I got nothing to hide from Stefan nor patience. Private messaging me means nothing but me being paranoid.

It may be as simple as such that he is banning doing a raid and banning all IP-addresses being referenced from his visitor tracker that he can trace went to or from liberating minds from or to his webpage.

QuestEon · Number of posts: 552 Registration date: 2008-03-25

lordmetroid wrote:

I don't know if patience is Stefan or not and it doesn't really matter for me if that would be the case. I got nothing to hide from Stefan nor patience. Private messaging me means nothing but me being paranoid.

It may be as simple as such that he is banning doing a raid and banning all IP-addresses being referenced from his visitor tracker that he can trace went to or from liberating minds from or to his webpage.

There's absolutely no way patience can be Molyneux, in my opinion.

I think he does pay attention to IP addresses. He once boasted that the number one site that links to FDR is.....drumroll....LiMi.

I'm probably overly paranoid, but I usually don't go right to FDR from LiMi. But I have a few other tricks....

Patience · Number of posts: 368 Location: England Registration date: 2008-08-26

lordmetroid wrote:

The user patience private messaged me on this forum. Saying good job on the wikipedia article and I replied it wasn't anything personal and patience then made a reply stating okay, that is cool...

No one can not see my IP on wikipedia.

Just to put the record straight, here are my messages to lordmetroid: Author Message
Patience
Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:53 pm Topic: Re: Wikipedia page deleted

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Yes, that's a sound argument. Thanks for your message.

lordmetroid
Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:51 pm Topic: Re: Wikipedia page deleted

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It wasn't anything personal towards Stefan, he just isn't notable and hence do not qualifies to have an entry in an encyclopaedia.

Patience
Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:31 pm Topic: Wikipedia page deleted

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Just saw this discussion about Stefan's entry being deleted:
http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/t/17670.aspx

Nice work!

Patience

In case anyone is still in any doubt, I am not Stefan, I am Tom's mum. I've been assured that the Guardian article will be published very soon. I'll post a link as soon as I see it.

Danny Shahar · Number of posts: 948 Registration date: 2007-12-30

My God...Stefan is a mother?! Of a DeFOO'd child?!?! BUM BUM BUMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!

(Best plot twist ever)

Dylboz · Number of posts: 2014 Registration date: 2007-09-20

I am really looking forward to that article and the ensuing damage control/spin doctoring from Stef and his FDR minions. We'll see what the light of day (and intense scrutiny from all over the world) will do to/for them. Also, I wonder if the web server is up to the task of handling all the hits from curious netizens?

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QuestEon · Number of posts: 552 Registration date: 2008-03-25

Dylboz wrote:

I am really looking forward to that article and the ensuing damage control/spin doctoring from Stef and his FDR minions. We'll see what the light of day (and intense scrutiny from all over the world) will do to/for them. Also, I wonder if the web server is up to the task of handling all the hits from curious netizens?

If other parents who don't know the internetz very well...
...see the article...
...and call the reporter...
...who tells them other parents have posted on LiMi....

...is this server up to it? Rolling Eyes

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Patience · Number of posts: 368 Location: England Registration date: 2008-08-26

It looks like Stef is back on Wikipedia but the article is being considered for deletion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_molyneux

lordmetroid · Number of posts: 212 Registration date: 2007-08-18

That is okay, Stefan has gotten a lot of coverage as of lately, I am sure it will be kept now.

Really, it is nothing personal, it is just that I am ostracizing him. DO NOT MESS WITH ANONYMOUS!

Patience · Number of posts: 368 Location: England Registration date: 2008-08-26

That's fine. I'm certainly not going to mess with Anonymous!