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mike barskey



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PostSubject: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:18 am

Here's a thread on FDR talking about (again) whether Stef's view on drugs is correct. Someone named Spaghettim0nst3r (can someone invite him/her to LM?) seemed very formal, polite, lucid, and learned, but after correcting Stef a few times, Stef's response was:
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Please stop posting on this Board.

They never even responded to Spaghettim0nst3r's post, as usual.
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:27 am

mike barskey wrote:
Here's a thread on FDR talking about (again) whether Stef's view on drugs is correct. Someone named Spaghettim0nst3r (can someone invite him/her to LM?) seemed very formal, polite, lucid, and learned, but after correcting Stef a few times, Stef's response was:
Quote:
Please stop posting on this Board.

They never even responded to Spaghettim0nst3r's post, as usual.
wow, this was downright insane and pathetic. Mr. C.'s post was just godawful and Spaghettimonster's response was just the thing Stef needed to ban him. God, they are a sad bunch. and yeah would be very nice to invite him, but I think his account will have been blocked by now so that he wont be able to check his PMs
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:28 am

Spaghettim0nst3r:
Stef wrote: You said that you had real epiphanies, and fake drug ones
No, I did not. The language here must be precise, and I did not use the word Epiphany, nor would I. An epiphany is a sudden, intuitive perception of or insight into reality (much like revelation), and I explicitly laid out how that does not characterize the experience or it's intention.
I did, however, say that I experience the emotion of eureka both on and off.

Mr. C. wrote
I didn't use the word "it's" for "its" while I was criticizing someone for imprecision, nor would I.


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There are a lot of people on this site who enjoy bumping their post count by making smart ass comments while having no point.

The intelligibility of my post was not affected, although you're right... I probably suffered a few typos. The difference here is technical anal retentiveness vs. accuracy in communicating meaning.

Epiphanies are not the equivalent of the emotional experience of Eureka.



Charlie


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Spaghettim0nst3r wrote:
Epiphanies are not the equivalent of the emotional experience of Eureka.

What is the emotion of "Eureka?"


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Spaghettim0nst3r wrote:
There are a lot of people on this site who enjoy bumping their post count by making smart ass comments while having no point.

The intelligibility of my post was not affected, although you're right... I probably suffered a few typos. The difference here is technical anal retentiveness vs. accuracy in communicating meaning.

Epiphanies are not the equivalent of the emotional experience of Eureka.


Please stop posting on this Board.
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:35 am

http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/24/93656/ShowThread.aspx#93656

Spaghettimonster called Charlie an 'asshole' in this thread. He was completely justified in doing so for Charlie's post was godawful, but that doesnt help his case using words like that.
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:36 am

fuck, all of the above posts were Conrad's, not Zebra's. I'll try to be more careful...
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:38 am

see, the insults that people like Mr C. and Charlie and Stef use are way more sophisticated and hence vile than words like 'asshole' that Spaghettimonster uses, but because such words are more clearly abusive he will be banned for those. it's a very sophisticated debating strategy: insulting somebody very deeply in a sophosticated way and then when the other reacts in a more direct way, ban him for it.

charlie in the thread I just refered to doesnt even admit to being an asshole or mocking Spaghettimonster. that's just plain cowardice.
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:44 am

here's another 'stop it' post by Stef (although the user removed what Stef probably refered to)

http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/3/93567/ShowThread.aspx#93567
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:33 pm

Conrad wrote:
fuck, all of the above posts were Conrad's, not Zebra's. I'll try to be more careful...




What does this mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:09 pm

Here's yet another, very recent (10 minutes ago) reply from a new FDR poster countering Stef's position on whether to debate about the Ron Paul issue.

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Stefan Molyneux wrote:
I'm not going to debate Ron Paul any more, since I've now asked several times for evidence that he has reduced the size of government in his home district, where he has power, and all I get in response is that Ron has not voted to increase taxes.

Hey Stef, would your opinion of Ron Paul increase/decrease/stay the same if he abstained from every vote in Congress and still accomplished nothing? How about if he had never run for Congress and still accomplished nothing?

Do you think people would be more/less/similarly interested in your political/economic/personal happiness theories if you had decided to not distribute your podcasts?

Stefan Molyneux wrote:
no gun will ever set you free.

What if the gun were used to kill shooter? Guns don't kill people...people kill people.

I am similarly uninterested in debating Ron Paul with you since you are equally unwilling to change your views on his potential effectiveness in fighting the government. However, I felt an uncontrollable urge to confront your repeated assertions that he has not done anything to change something over which he has no power. Your question of what he has done to decrease taxes in his district would be akin to me asking YOU what you have done to decrease taxes in his district, then plainly dismiss all of your logical arguments against government because you have also done nothing in that regard.

I know it seems as if I have just joined your community to start a flame war or rehash old arguments, and if you feel that way, I will fade into the obscurity from whence I came, but I really do agree with some of the theories discussed in this forum.

Well done.


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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:17 pm

This is another Stefism:
http://freedomainradio.com/board/forums/thread/93751.aspx

Even though he claims to have stopped debating the Ron Paul issue, he still posts insults to those who oppose his view. In this case, he sarcastically says "Ron Paul has a new endorsement," and the endorsement (a YouTube video) is from a white supremacist. Stef is saying, "See. White supremacists endorse Ron Paul, so he can't represent good values after all!" What about the white supremacists that endorse the other candidates? What about the rational people that endorse Ron Paul? This is such an obvious personal attack (avoiding the issue at hand) that even I recognize it.

I get so frustrated by this bullshit that it may not be worth my listening/reading FDR any more to try to get to the "good stuff."
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:46 pm

well done indeed!

poor Stef, having to endure all these attacks on his forum that he worked so hard for. if only he werent such a narcissistic megalomaniac...
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:47 pm

oMG... i thought even his loyal cabal would say at least something back to Stef using the 'white supremacist endorsment' but they're ff-ing cheering him on... dont they understand proper argumentation? do they know no shame?
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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:34 pm

Charlie wrote:


normaltim wrote:
If a white supremacist supported Stef would all of you guys abandon Stef?


Nobody's abandoning Ron Paul because a white supremacist endorsed him - it's just funny.

A white supremacist wouldn't support Stef in the first place - along with bigotry, they tend to like God and country. What are you really asking?

But to answer your question, no. I'd just think the white supremacist hadn't done much listening and reading.


"I'd just think the white supremacist hadn't done much listening and reading."


EXACTLY!!!

and I thought I was frustrated before


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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:35 pm

Nielsio wrote:
Conrad wrote:
fuck, all of the above posts were Conrad's, not Zebra's. I'll try to be more careful...




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PostSubject: Re: Watch Stef implode   Thu Oct 11, 2007 9:52 pm

normaltim wrote:
and I thought I was frustrated before

I hear ya'.
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