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vichy



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PostSubject: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:09 pm

Why is the most frequented board a bunch of nitpicking of the sociological quirks of an eccentric canadian and his board full of strangers? I mean, I know a lot of us got here from LiMi, but I have long since ceased to care what Stefan Molyneux does. If he's such a twat, why don't you guys just stop paying attention to him? I don't visit Alan Greenspan's website to constantly check up on what sort of nonsense he's spewing, and Alan Greenspan actually had an impact on the world.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:10 pm

vichy wrote:
Why is the most frequented board a bunch of nitpicking of the sociological quirks of an eccentric canadian and his board full of strangers? I mean, I know a lot of us got here from LiMi, but I have long since ceased to care what Stefan Molyneux does. If he's such a twat, why don't you guys just stop paying attention to him? I don't visit Alan Greenspan's website to constantly check up on what sort of nonsense he's spewing, and Alan Greenspan actually had an impact on the world.

Alan Greenspan? That's a great idea!

I just posted a thread about my journey to and from FDR that also addresses this question.

I'm not saying it's healthy, but it is addictive.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:15 pm

Well i listened to hundreds of the podcast over at FDR and would have ended up leaving my family if it wasnt for LiMi. I always thought there might be something wrong over at FDR but noone ever criticized anything over there. One day on the FDR chatroom someone mentioned there was a website called liberatingminds that was full of nothing but people that hated FDR. This seemed really strange to me i'd never heard of a website having a counterculture against it so i figured if i had listened to hundreds of Stefan Molyneuxs podcast i would spend a few hours surfing this website. Within literally 5 hrs i went from molyneuvite to hating this douche. I never knew about the Tyler thread or any of the other bad things Stefan did from his website until i visited here. I thank this site for saving countless days of my life from the horrible canadian douchebaggery. Honestly i dont think i can trust anyone with a slightly effiminate foreign accent ever again.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:22 pm

I appreciate the fact that you had negative experiences, but isn't the optimal thing to get away from those negative experiences. When you have a horrible relationship, reading the person's myspace and constantly harping about them isn't going to help you, and while I can see a function for the family board and discussion with people from FDR most of this board is equivalent to gossip. Move on, if someone is a dick then leave them behind. You have far more important things to do with your life, like spellchecking congressional records and playing harmonica.

Remember, if you want to have anything in your life you have to consider where you're putting your scarce resources. Is a bald Afrikanadian really your best investment?

"Whoever will be free must make himself free. Freedom is no fairy gift to fall into a man's lap. What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self." - Max Stirner
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:34 pm

this is pat of the post I referred to:

My continued quite intense fascination with 'everything FDR' shows however that the 'graduation-process' has not been completed yet. So that's something to seriously consider and explore.

Another reason/cause for the continuing fascination I think is similar to the fascination people have with soap operas or reality shows. I follow FDR like others would follow a soap opera or reality show. it's gossipy and a weird form of entertainment. And it's likely not very healthy, so that too is something to seriously consider and explore.


so yeah, you're quite right in what you say about leaving them behind. it is a sort of addiction. And probably not checking out FDR anymore will be beneficial for my emotional health, and in reverse if I were more emotionally mature I likely wouldn't be checking out FDR so often, although the addiction may be somewhat innocuous like an addiction to watching a reality show. I do spend considerably more time on it though and that is somewhat problematic.
it's a process and it would be good for me to make more effort into kicking the habit.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:39 pm

He's wrecking up the freedom movement, making us look like loony anti-family cultists, he scares parents and provokes negative media attention that will conflate anarcho-capitalism with Molyneuxism.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:40 pm

Conrad wrote:
this is pat of the post I referred to:

My continued quite intense fascination with 'everything FDR' shows however that the 'graduation-process' has not been completed yet. So that's something to seriously consider and explore.

Another reason/cause for the continuing fascination I think is similar to the fascination people have with soap operas or reality shows. I follow FDR like others would follow a soap opera or reality show. it's gossipy and a weird form of entertainment. And it's likely not very healthy, so that too is something to seriously consider and explore.


so yeah, you're quite right in what you say about leaving them behind. it is a sort of addiction. And probably not checking out FDR anymore will be beneficial for my emotional health, and in reverse if I were more emotionally mature I likely wouldn't be checking out FDR so often, although the addiction may be somewhat innocuous like an addiction to watching a reality show. I do spend considerably more time on it though and that is somewhat problematic.
it's a process and it would be good for me to make more effort into kicking the habit.

See, when I feel like watching emotionally immature people with delusions of grandeur act totally bizarre, I just watch Smallville.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:41 pm

and I watch FDR
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:43 pm

I have to say it is very entertaining. But more i spent about 2 months on there chatroom trying to give opposing viewpoints over there before i finally got banned. Its really sick what FDR has done to these people. I would like you to know that i have lots of spare time and this isnt the only thing i do but i feel like this site is doing people a favor, i know it is because this site did me a favor and i would like to thank Conrad for that. So i see this site as justice and part of the court of public opinion. Libertarians believe in astrocism and getting rid of bad people through nonviolence right? This is what that is. We owe it to our libertarian bro's who are getting drawn into a cult involved with the freedom movement.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:47 pm

He's wrecking up the freedom movement
Molyneux doesn't have that power, and what 'freedom movement'? No such thing has ever existed, an education of freedom exists among some people. I can tell you for damn sure I'm not part of any 'movement'.
making us look like loony anti-family cultists
As opposed to the racist elitist druggies we're typically portrayed as?
he scares parents
Teething scares parents.
and provokes negative media attention
The media needs provocation now?
that will conflate anarcho-capitalism with Molyneuxism.
How many people who'd be influenced by such a view have any idea what either of those actually mean?

I have to say it is very entertaining. But more i spent about 2 months on there chatroom trying to give opposing viewpoints over there before i finally got banned. Its really sick what FDR has done to these people.
By all means, to quote Crowley, do what thou wilt, but I think a lot of people here just want to 'punish' Molyneux in some bizarre way, and while I'm not calling anyone a pathological obsessor it is important to realise that this man holds no power over anyone's life but that which they give him, and you want to consider whether you want to give him that power. Paying attention to him does just that.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:01 pm

I disagree i am not giving him any power and i am not a pathological obsessor thankyou very much.

Molyneux doesn't have that power, and what 'freedom movement'? No such thing has ever existed, an education of freedom exists among some people. I can tell you for damn sure I'm not part of any 'movement'.

There is a freedom movement, tell all the people that made Ron Pauls 6 million dollar money bomb in the primary that there is no freedom movement. Honey with Ron Paul, Freetalklive and the freestate project, Mises, there is a freedom movement it may not be as big as other movements but its there.

As opposed to the racist elitist druggies we're typically portrayed as?

ive know several liberty people, "racist elitist druggies" i doubt it and ive never met anyone that knew about libertarians that didnt have some respect for them

Teething scares parents.

People leaving there parents unsubstantiated is more scary.
Ahhhh!!!!


The media needs provocation now?

i would call the guardian article provoked negative media attention? yep

that will conflate anarcho-capitalism with Molyneuxism.

happened to me!
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:04 pm

Like I said, do whatever you want, but there are far too many idiots on the internet for me to give a damn about. For my part, Stefan taught me little, never really did anything to me, and now that his site and podcasts are boring I'll leave him to molder.
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:09 pm

yeah ive done my best, wont be long till i do the same and leave him to molder too
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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:16 pm

I dunno... it's like a sport for me.
Stef is the ass who is always checking my mates against the rails. The referee never sees it and the other team refuses to acknowledge it.
Never mind the fact that I was once on assholes team and threw them all a ball or two.
He is also stifling the future of the new recruits.
The f'r is as corrupt a playah as they come.
So I've picked my team and I am playin...and when I'm not out in the field I am rootin for them.

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PostSubject: Re: Why Do You Care?   Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:26 pm

I care because he is giving anarchism a bad name... Okay that sounded majorly stupid.

Seriously though, I don't care about Stefan's cookiness, I just get caught up in having a conversation with anyone as I am always alone. So the topic on this forum is the FDR forum, I talk about the FDR forum.
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