Who was banned from FDR and why?

Number of posts: 122 Registration date: 2010-02-08

Me, for bumping a year old thread on logical flaws in RTR. No parting message.

Martin

Number of posts: 594 Location: England Registration date: 2008-08-26

MartinB wrote:

Me, for bumping a year old thread on logical flaws in RTR. No parting message.

Martin

Molyneux recently announced his membership had reached 9000. Perhaps he should update that figure as 8999.

Number of posts: 122 Registration date: 2010-02-08

Patience wrote:

Molyneux recently announced his membership had reached 9000. Perhaps he should update that figure as 8999.

I wouldnt wonder if banned members still get counted. If spambots do.

Also I noticed how the posting ranks seem to only list powers of two. Maybe another glitch in the software....

Martin

Number of posts: 3 Registration date: 2011-08-02

Hey everyone,

I haven't been banned, I've just been emailed by Mr Molyneux & asked not to post again because I used the words 'asinine' 'bigots' & 'fuckwits' (which I do regret...even though there are some complete fuckwits on FDR!)

He also asked me to keep the email he sent me 'private'

I was very confused by this as I was unaware at that time of Molyneux's 'control freakism' & oblivious to the cult accusations.

Having said that I think I mentioned in one of my threads the 'Stepford Wives' feel of the forum & noticed it was very quiet & sterile & absolutely crawling with shills & glove puppets.

It is truly the creepiest forum I have ever been a member of. I was accused of 'trolling' but felt I was the one being trolled & baited because I believe in God.

I am obviously not trained in Philosophy & did not understand a lot of the language & wanted to talk about people's personal experiences leading to them declaring themselves as 'atheists'.

I have since been researching Molyneux & could not believe what I was hearing & reading about this geeza!

Thank you to everyone for sharing your experiences & helping me understand what I had experienced.

I am now going to share this info with Alex Jones & Infowars, Adam vs The Man & others & recommend others do the same to anywhere that Molyneux is appearing.

Here are the threads I posted. Please let me know what you think or if you think I was out of order.

"Why Atheist & Not Agnostic"

"Mark Passio - FREE YOUR MIND CONFERENCE 2011"

Has anyone any thoughts about Molyneux as COINTELPRO in a deliberate attempt to discredit anarchy/libertarians?

Thanks for having me here. Very Happy

Number of posts: 514 Registration date: 2010-01-28

Welcome! Haven't looked at your posts, but I wonder if they thought you were the return of CartesianTheist. He got banned a while back, ostensibly for trolling.

Thread here: http://liberatingminds.forumotion.com/t1856-cartesian-teapot

Number of posts: 23 Registration date: 2011-02-06

TKoL here, aka Churro, here's the why:

I was banned for being banned.

Number of posts: 3 Registration date: 2011-08-02

Hi Argent

Hi TKoL

Banned for being banned? What happened? Was it to do with Noesis thread you spoke up in?

I am still amazed by the realisation of what Molyneux is up to over at FDR & my experience in his vicious little corner of the web & how well he hides his alter ego, or rather how it has taken me so long to see it...

It really is shocking to realise that someone who talks so much about individual freedom is so disrespectful, manipulative, devious, dishonest towards others.

I am writing an email to send to anywhere I see this geeza appearing. That therapising session he inflicted on that 18 year old British boy was totally outrageous.

I am also unsubscribing from his YouTube channel & will leave a comment saying why.

I am trying to understand what is going on with him in so far as his behavior is concerned since it is not even subtle. Is he completely unaware that his behaviour is so odd & that we all talk to each other?

He has always seemed so controlled but I am thinking he's mad as a box of frogs. Or he is COINTELPRO?

Anyway, very grateful to you all!

Number of posts: 514 Registration date: 2010-01-28

Glad to help! Would love to hear more about how your views of him have changed. What clicked for you when, and why, do you think? Did you feel any resistence to it? Why do you think you didn't see it earlier? Do you think your view of him now is more accurate? (Seems so.) Why?

I ask because I am very interested in the psychology of those who remain there and even really like Stefan despite some pretty egregious stuff he's done. Do they just not see I? Do they explain it away? Is there something they're getting from him that vastly outweighs the negatives? Do they actually approve of it for some twisted reason? Are they right and we're the ones who are crazy? (I think we have enough evidence on this board to counter that accusation.)

Number of posts: 17 Registration date: 2011-07-16

Argent wrote:

Are they right and we're the ones who are crazy? (I think we have enough evidence on this board to counter that accusation.)

Don't you know, Stefan is always right because he said so. Wink

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Hi everyone, it's Cassandra and my password got disappeared again.

Number of posts: 122 Registration date: 2010-02-08

Does he also give you a million dollars when you leave town?

Subject: Re: Who was banned from FDR and why? Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:17 am

I was banned for thinking that maybe, just maybe, stef was a bad guy. You see, if you use the words like 'cult' or 'i actually kind of like my parents' you are out, not to mention that calling him out in public or on the board is wrong. Sucks too, because I had put shit tons of effort into all of that stuff. Then again, im glad to be free, and in the globe and mail article against FDR and their cult.

Of course, this is now two years later, as I was among the first 'insiders' to be banned, along with people who are also on this board. I do have to say though, since leaving, hitching around and figuring my own beliefs out, I am glad FDR had very little to do with my development into a more well rounded adult.

Number of posts: 17 Registration date: 2011-07-16

^ I remember reading some of your posts way back when I was a member of FDR for a brief time but I did not know that you were an 'insider,' S4L.

I wasn't banned from FDR, but I experienced many 'red flags' and that 'stepford feel' of the board before I decided to leave. One of the very first was Molyneux calling me 'Cassie' after I had introduced myself as Cassandra. This may not seem significant but apart from being rude, is a sign that perhaps the person may be a control freak.

I did not know much about LM, or the bannings associated with it until I heard about it on FDR, otherwise I would not have known. I was disgusted with the hypocrisy on FDR and decided to leave by throwing a lot of it back at FDR, while flirting with being banned. I then discovered that my thread was amusing a lot of people on LM and I came over here. I have lost my passwords a few times and have posted under variations of Cassandra (sorry Conrad for the multiple accounts.)

I travel a lot and when I am grounded, I like to come back here and chat a bit.

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Hi everyone, it's Cassandra and my password got disappeared again.

Number of posts: 3 Registration date: 2011-08-02

Argent wrote:

Glad to help! Would love to hear more about how your views of him have changed. What clicked for you when, and why, do you think? Did you feel any resistence to it? Why do you think you didn't see it earlier? Do you think your view of him now is more accurate? (Seems so.) Why?

Hey Argent, thank you for your interest.

First off I noticed how quiet & dull the forum was which really seemed to contrast with how Stefan comes across on his videos & appearances & that surprised me because I expected that his forum would be buzzing & funny & well, er, FREE?

I didn't know then that what I was seeing was the result of Stefan's censoring, bullying, manipulation & 'grooming' of members to satisfy his own financial/emotional needs & issues, which is what I believe to be the case now.

The robotic / dogmatic replies to my thread about atheism & the condescending / dismissive replies to a video I posted.

followed by how closed minded, intolerant & nasty many people seemed to me & also the complete absence of other voices, opinions & dissent.

I actually remarked how similar they were to fundamentalist Christians (actually Christians are slightly more reasonable!) which obviously didn't help calm the situation but was the truth as I saw it.

Then I'm being called a troll in both threads & people were being directed not to post anymore.

The place is crawling with bigots & bullies & shills in my opinion.

Then I got Stefan's email asking me to quit posting altogether which I didn't see coming & the reasons he gave me for my secret ban could have just as easily been applied to those who had posted on my thread.

He asked me to keep his email 'private' which was dodgy. That's why I googled FDR & Molyneux & how I found you guys.

Argent wrote:

I ask because I am very interested in the psychology of those who remain there and even really like Stefan despite some pretty egregious stuff he's done. Do they just not see I? Do they explain it away? Is there something they're getting from him that vastly outweighs the negatives? Do they actually approve of it for some twisted reason? Are they right and we're the ones who are crazy? (I think we have enough evidence on this board to counter that accusation.)

I think that running a forum like Stefan does, not only repels people who think for themselves & value truth, but will also attract & retain those who have other agendas such as forming a personal relationship with Stefan, the Daddy, or belonging to a 'family' that competes for Daddy's attention.

My impression is that there are people there who have been hurt & are seeking belonging & parenting & that comes with a price which is submitting / acquiescing to Stefan's need to be right, be adored, to control & dominate others.

It's not primarily about the £$ to Stefan in my opinion, I think it's the emotional payoff it gives him which is a way he copes with whatever shit he is carrying around from his childhood.

I'm talking about his perceived need to 'rescue' young people from families which has much more to do with his own pathology than theirs.

His behaviour on FDR is a complete betrayal of his so eloquently expressed ideas of liberty & his public persona that seems so open, honest & confident. He speaks a lot about rationality, ethics & honour too.

But, as we all know, he hides this dirty little secret life which is really sad if you think about it. It's actually not just damaging to those around him but is self destructive too.

One thing I've learnt is if you don't integrate your dark side, it will come & fuck you up.

His behaviour is creepy & sad because he is obviously not the person he pretends to be & his behaviour is actually at odds with the ideas he spends so much time talking about.

Much of his censoring is done secretly which is the action of someone who is ashamed of themselves &/or trying to maintain a false persona, whilst other times he brazenly indulges in open manipulation & bullying which he seems to have no awareness of!

The saddest thing to me is how he must view other people as 2 dimensional props in his script that can be manipulated & controlled on one hand & attacked, dismissed & silenced on the other.

Does he think people won't realise what he's about or talk to each other?

It's either impulsive behaviour or it's deliberately destructive to further another unspoken agenda... COINTELPRO? I personally don't think so, & what I see is someone imprisoned by his past & controlled by his need for black, white & to seek to control others into adoration or dismissal.

I mean, how fucking fragile must this geezer be to behave in such a way!?

His needs seem to take precedence over others & it seems his ideas are so fragile that he seems to need to attack or remove any differing opinions & intellectual equals which to me tells me someone is not trying to find truth but puts more importance on how he looks to others & controlling his position with regard to them.

I believe his actions are hypocritical. I believe he is a conscious liar &/or so self deluded that he loses any credibility.

But in the end, it's just fucking sad that a man with the capacity & potential to do so much good because of the amazing qualities he possesses, is instead choosing to behave like a schoolroom bully.

His intellect & charisma, lack the integrity to guide them & I can speak from experience when I say, one day Stefan, you will come to feel so much regret for how you squandered what you had because you were too scared to look inside & be honest with yourself.

I hope he does, but I won't hold my breath…

The good news for all of us is, it is never, ever, ever too late to decide to choose truth, or rather the search for it & the curiosity to know it...

The other good news for Stefan & all those who are feeling so damaged by those that hurt you, is you are only damaged as long as you choose to be. What do I mean by that? I mean in 20 years as a nurse / counsellor working with young people who experienced abuse &/or neglect within their families, I met those who were trapped by what had happened to them & often used what had happened as a reason they could never be anything other than victims.

Then there were those who had grown bigger than those who had hurt them & turned all that suffering & pain into an amazing compassion for others, including those who abused them or those who were so caught up in their own shit, they were unable to relate to them except in terms of how they fitted into their self perpetrating scripts which made them feel like 2D props. Neglect is silent abuse.

BUT, they were able to move beyond this & discover that they had become who they were BECAUSE of what shit was done to them.

Forgiveness isn't something you do for others, you do it for yourself. It allows you to escape the bullshit roles that have been offered to you by others that close you down.

The most amazing. compassionate, loving individuals I EVER met in my life have been people like this & they have changed my life because they taught me that we are here to change shit into gold, or not, if that's what we choose. It's all about us. There is no formula for the correct way to do this, it is about us keeping searching...

Again, I want to thank all of you who questioned, & kept looking for truth no matter where it took you, because you have really helped me have faith in myself & to keep questioning also.

LOVE TO ALL IN THESE TIMES x

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