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Static4367

Number of posts: 353 Age: 29 Location: Los Angeles, CA Registration date: 2008-05-22
 | Subject: Opinions on relationships? Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:52 pm | |
| I am curious to what degree people on this board desire their existing or potential mates to share their intellectual interests.
Though it is easy to find anyone on the internet, the real world is a different story. Most women (and men) that I encounter in my day to day activities can be interesting and/or fun in small doses but would bore me to tears if I spent 2 hours alone with them. Sharing the same political beliefs is obviously not everything, but at some point you need something to talk about that keeps you both interested.
For the past couple years I have had a series of very short relationships (10 dates or fewer) that basically end when I completely lose interest and would rather be home reading a book by myself than be interacting with the current partner. To some degree I think I am not giving some of these women a chance; that its not fair to judge people that quickly. But, on the other hand I value my time very highly and I feel like I am wasting it. When I am on a date I feel like I am straining to be entertaining when I am not really engaged. Afterwards I catch myself lying to delay the next date, and I really really dislike dishonesty, particularly in myself.
Have other people run into this? If so, have you found any semi-successful solutions or are we equally hopeless? For those in relationships, how did you meet your partner? Was it random luck or did you discover some way to target the type of people you wanted to meet? |
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ExyPhylo

Number of posts: 1261 Registration date: 2007-12-11
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Sun Nov 16, 2008 7:11 pm | |
| What attracts you to the women you ask on a date? |
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Conrad

Number of posts: 5647 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Registration date: 2007-07-21
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:59 am | |
| | Static4367 wrote: | I am curious to what degree people on this board desire their existing or potential mates to share their intellectual interests.
Though it is easy to find anyone on the internet, the real world is a different story. Most women (and men) that I encounter in my day to day activities can be interesting and/or fun in small doses but would bore me to tears if I spent 2 hours alone with them. Sharing the same political beliefs is obviously not everything, but at some point you need something to talk about that keeps you both interested.
For the past couple years I have had a series of very short relationships (10 dates or fewer) that basically end when I completely lose interest and would rather be home reading a book by myself than be interacting with the current partner. To some degree I think I am not giving some of these women a chance; that its not fair to judge people that quickly. But, on the other hand I value my time very highly and I feel like I am wasting it. When I am on a date I feel like I am straining to be entertaining when I am not really engaged. Afterwards I catch myself lying to delay the next date, and I really really dislike dishonesty, particularly in myself.
Have other people run into this? If so, have you found any semi-successful solutions or are we equally hopeless? For those in relationships, how did you meet your partner? Was it random luck or did you discover some way to target the type of people you wanted to meet? |
good question!
I don't know, in conversations with girls what tends to happen? I mean, do you ask them questions, listen to what they have to say in response, become curious and want to know more, and so ask more questions or relate your own thoughts/feelings? What is the range of subjects you find interesting? Do you start to get bored because of particular subjects or because the way these girls approach the subjects, or the way to seem to 'be' in life in general?
for Zebra and me, i think the absolutely wonderful and blissful thing is that we both tend to be immensely interested in things in general, and enjoy our and each other's thinking, joking, each other's minds and souls.
in general. the shortest way to put it is that we both pretty much are never bored, either when alone or when together.
That said, if she wasn't as incredibly attractive as she is, I would have nothing to do with her...
;-)
We met by coincidence btw, but I do think that if we had met at almost any other venue, in almost any other situation and had had a chance to strike up a conversation, we would have almost inevitably ended up together. |
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Static4367

Number of posts: 353 Age: 29 Location: Los Angeles, CA Registration date: 2008-05-22
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:03 pm | |
| The women I go out with are people I meet out at bars or through friends. They are reasonably intelligent, reasonably well spoken, reasonably interesting. They are often fun to hang out with and converse with for an hour or two. After a couple hours though I get tired of superficial conversation and ultimately that seems to be the issue. Most people just aren't willing to move beyond the superficial or don't have much interest beyond the superficial. |
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ExyPhylo

Number of posts: 1261 Registration date: 2007-12-11
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:20 pm | |
| | Static4367 wrote: | | The women I go out with are people I meet out at bars or through friends. They are reasonably intelligent, reasonably well spoken, reasonably interesting. They are often fun to hang out with and converse with for an hour or two. After a couple hours though I get tired of superficial conversation and ultimately that seems to be the issue. Most people just aren't willing to move beyond the superficial or don't have much interest beyond the superficial. |
I don't know Stat, do you think a mate or needs to meet all your needs. I love my job for example but I wouldn't want to talk about it too long after work. Ah shit what do I know, my most fulfilling relationship was with an incredibly bright sexy individual with whom I could converse with about anything in depth or not for hours. We met on a project we were both very passionate about at that time and our attraction though immediate grew into something very special over time. Six years later we were still conversing like crazy at the dinner table. Unfortunately I ended it believing I did not have to participate or deal with what I thought was an insurmountable shortcoming. On reflection, let's just say I wished I would have worked through it with him and your right they are not easy to come by. |
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Static4367

Number of posts: 353 Age: 29 Location: Los Angeles, CA Registration date: 2008-05-22
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:37 pm | |
| Well you get right at the balance I am trying to find. Obviously there is a point at which the positives significantly outweigh any imperfections. I don't think I have found someone yet who does that for me. But, I worry that I don't give people enough of a chance.
I should clarify that actually, I worry that I don't give people who demand something back from me enough of a chance. I am willing to give people as many chances as they want so long as it is on my own terms. It is once I am expected to start to give up some of my freedom, to plan around someone else's schedule that I start to recoil. |
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ExyPhylo

Number of posts: 1261 Registration date: 2007-12-11
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:50 pm | |
| Do you think you may be holding on too tightly to your independence? You always have to give some of your terms up when you share time with another. For example, farting at will. lol When you find the right connection those terms won't be so hard to overcome. Though I caution you my example can be a deal breaker.
edit:It helps to be reminded that those individuals are adjusting their terms and schedules to spend time with you. If they are not adjusting their terms and schedules and are readily available then chances are there isn't much there below the surface or your not on an even playing field, eitherway it won't be very interesting. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:42 pm | |
| I am curious to what degree people on this board desire their existing or potential mates to share their intellectual interests.
I have trouble talking to anyone who doesn't share my intellectual interests; aside from, "I'll have a number 9 with no lettuce". |
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lordmetroid

Number of posts: 215 Registration date: 2007-08-18
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:57 am | |
| I have yet to ask anyone on a date, I have had female acquaintances that I invited to my home to break bread with or at some occasions had the pleasure to enjoy other special events with.
I don't know, I never felt all to attracted to anyone women and I have merely had shallow relationships with them I have known in the past. Wish I could find someone more sexually and intellectually appealing to share my life with.
I never had a relationship one can define with amount of days, all my relationships are very fuzzy regarding when they start and when they end. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:58 am | |
| I never had a relationship one can define with amount of days, all my relationships are very fuzzy regarding when they start and when they end. That's true of me, also. I also find very few guys sexually/intellectually appealing, and the two are both related (though not equivalent, as I am something of a perfectionist in human appearance). |
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Conrad

Number of posts: 5647 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Registration date: 2007-07-21
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:24 am | |
| I think it is also a factor for both LordMetroid and Vichy and Static that you pretty much have nothing to offer to potential partners...
hey, I'm just trying reverse psychology is all...
;-)
inapprop? |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:59 am | |
| inapprop? Yeah, because I'm so touchy. My ego is bulletproof. |
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Conrad

Number of posts: 5647 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Registration date: 2007-07-21
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:54 pm | |
| what do LordMetroid, Static and Vichy want in a relationship, what do you expect and hope for? What would your ideal relationship look like? |
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ExyPhylo

Number of posts: 1261 Registration date: 2007-12-11
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:07 pm | |
| I feel left out...it was the fart joke wasn't it? |
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Conrad

Number of posts: 5647 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Registration date: 2007-07-21
 | Subject: Re: Opinions on relationships? Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:44 pm | |
| it was the fart joke indeed. Girls don't fart.
also, you had a real and good relationship before, so the same don't apply to you. Problem is that in your idiocy you actually fucked up the wonderful relationship. But still, you've had the experience. More fish in the pond, and what not. You'll find a halfway decent guy somehow. Sure, it's unlikely that he'll be quite as wonderful as the ex-partner, but that's the price you pay for making stupid mistakes like that.
you know
(just kidding of course) |
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