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Conrad



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PostSubject: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:19 am

If you like to quit your FDR addiction cold-turkey, then click on any link on LM to FDR. Stef has started to IP ban people who visit FDR via a link from LM. (so to be sure, you don't have to post anything anymore to get banned from FDR, simply going to the FDR site via LM will suffice)

if you don't want to quit the addiction (or not in this way anyway) then right-click on the links on LM and copy the link short-cut and then paste that in a new tab or window.

if you have already been IP banned, then you can consider using an 'anonymous proxy server thing' or try to reset your IP address. I have no idea how to do either though.

To ensure cosmic balance I am going to give rewards to people who visit LM via FDR...
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lordmetroid



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:30 am

I got ip-banned a few weeks ago for following links from LM to FDR forum, so be careful. Ohh and the above is confirmed Smile
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ExyPhylo



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:33 am

Well that is one way to limit your members freedom of information. This is a virtual road block. Funny and Stef has a problem with the risk of losing freedoms on the internet.
All I can say is ... for every action there is a reaction.
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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:43 am

looks like it happened to me yesterday. my ip at work is banned today

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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:03 am

the perfect host wrote:
I give accusers the chance to provide evidence for their wild
assertions
-- it certainly could be the case that I have misstated
something somewhere, and I would be very happy to have the chance to
correct anything that I have said that would support their accusations
.
If they do not provide any evidence for their attacks, I do ban
them, and I send them an e-mail asking them not to post any more.(he bans even when they do)
If the initial post is just out-and-out abusive -- i.e. no factual
statements are made about my positions -- I do not invite further
discussion.
I did talk this over with Christina last night, and we went over
once more the possibility that there is a more productive way to engage
these sorts of abusive people. She has had considerable experience
through her lengthy career dealing with abusive people, and I have also
had no shortage of experience over the past few years.
I have certainly tried in the past to debate people who accuse me of
terrible things -- even up to last week -- but it always goes to the
same place, and so I have decided to continue my current practice of
giving people the chance to support their accusations, but if they
continue to be abusive, and avoid the necessity of providing evidence,
they clearly are not as yet intellectually mature or emotionally stable
enough to contribute productively to a philosophical forum.
I would do the same if I were hosting a dinner party, and a friend
of a friend began to abuse me and/or my wife -- or other guests of
course. I would not let him continue to sit at my table, eat my food,
and call me names.
It is not so much my comfort that would concern me, as the ease and comfort of my guests.
agh..(sorry to waste your time) it's all poo.
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Phlogiston



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:49 am

reddeerrick wrote:
looks like it happened to me yesterday. my ip at work is banned today


Me too as stated in another thread.
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lordmetroid



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:38 am

Bahh... It is so obvious Stefan is running a cult, so many people are pointing it out for science's sake!
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FireUp



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:41 pm

This is terrible, Stef is obviously worried about people getting an alternative perspective. I can't say this surprises me however.
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sutible4livestok



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:50 pm

im going to go get IP banned so that i cant look at it anymore, its like a drug, i just need to be cut off
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Patience



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:58 pm

sutible4livestok wrote:
im going to go get IP banned so that i cant look at it anymore, its like a drug, i just need to be cut off

Don't jump! You might want to be able to go back for a look around one day.
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Paul



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Fri Feb 06, 2009 2:05 pm

Use a service like http://anonym.to/en.html. If the forum admin has enough permissions and know how, they can make it so all links to FDR use that service automatically.

Example:

http://anonym.to/?http://freedomainradio.com/
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twistedfister



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:34 am

Just tried the anonym.to link and Bam! HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected.

I wonder if Molyneux or one of his followers is actively monitoring these forums in order to determine how people are circumventing the IP ban.

It would be the height of hypocrisy for Molyneux & Co. to ban the IP addresses of web site visitors referred to Freedomainradio from Liberating Minds, while simultaneously helping themselves to the information in the Liberating Minds forums for counter intelligence purposes.

Code:
You are not authorized to view this page
The Web server you are attempting to reach has a list of IP addresses that are not allowed to access the Web site, and the IP address of your browsing computer is on this list.

Please try the following:
Contact the Web site administrator if you believe you should be able to view this directory or page.
HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden: IP address of the client has been rejected.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

Technical Information (for support personnel)
Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title search for the words HTTP and 403.
Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager (inetmgr), and search for topics titled About Security, Limiting Access by IP Address, IP Address Access Restrictions, and About Custom Error Messages.


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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:10 am

There is one more thing about this whole IP ban foolishness that really sticks in my craw.

I cannot recall any other instance during my entire online experience (since about 1995) where my IP address was banned for merely *viewing* an "unapproved" web site.

In essence, visiting Liberating Minds has been deemed an Orwellian "thought crime" by the Molyneux camp, and your punishment is instant and non-reversible (and presumably) lifetime IP address banning.

There is no remedy process for having your IP ban removed that I am aware of. This dovetails nicely with Molyneux's "self-detonating" philosophy of forgiveness, which is nicely deconstructed here.

This IP address banning tactic strikes me as fundamentally at odds with the entire spirit and philosophy of the Internet.


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Conrad



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:15 am

Stefan probably wants to protect us from ourselves: we are just not emotionally mature enough to digest the content on FDR and so it would just mess us up, make us all rowdy and what not.
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lordmetroid



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PostSubject: Re: IP ban for people who visit FDR via LM   Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:20 am

Rightist political thoughts combined with Anarcho-capitalism merely results in feudalism.

Kevin Carson have collected quotes from the right "anarchist" of the LvMI on http://c4ss.org/content/146 the ideas expressed is precisely the same behavior being observed by Stefan Molyneux, creating their own kingdoms and being generally assholes.
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