Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism
|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:30 am|| |
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|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:34 am|| |
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|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:35 am|| |
"From your previous post it seems that your sense of propriety or fairness or something is based upon power"
- Propriety is not something I recognize, it is a derivation of the concept of property in a moral-sense. I conceive of property as that which is under your power. But this is not prescriptive, rather definitional. A man's property is, in fact, what he can keep and get. That has nothing to do with rightness either way, it is simply a logical relationship. Property laws and standards affect property insofar as they modify the ease of attaining property and keeping it.
I have tried, above, to express my meaning of 'fairness' which I might call Civil-Reciprocity (Ctd Below)
|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:48 am|| |
Go ahead and delete the PS3 posts.
Power is a description of the logical relationship between means and ends, indeed the logic of the 'egoism' I consider correct is extremely similar to Mises' views in general, in his "Epistemelogical Problems in Economics" (I believe that's the book), in the assertion that supremacy of values can not be rationally resolved.
Power represents every capacity an individual has, including persuasion, confusion, humor as well as physical strength, political control etc. But although power encompasses all these the specific content of power is unique to each individual at an instant, as are his goals (however he might arrive at them). Just as you can like a military life or not, so you may or may not like using the military means, supposing you even have such means. This in itself is no contradiction of egoism any more than its use would be, I do not enjoy being in violent situations if avoidable, nor do I gain any satisfaction from delivering harm to those who deliver me none.
|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:53 am|| |
That reality does not issue ultimate decrees which bind men to one standard or another, nor fix relations with others by some eternal law is certainly not my doing, and what it precisely is not is a prescriptive or normative claim. Might is not 'right', it is successful, all relations of means/ends can be logically reduced to Power (or Influence of you prefer). Even if men believe in some ideological force which morally compels them, no such force in fact exists, and the ideas and standards are their own, regardless of how they were formed or what their content is. You might disagree, but I consider anti-ideologism a logical paralell to metholodical individualism. The study of human action and human existence diplay the singular fact that all standards are, in fact, a property of one's own body.
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|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:17 am|| |
So here is the question I put to you who might care: Just what did happen, and does it resemble the official narrative of the holocaust? - Vichy[/quote]
I think it is great and also important, to ask these questions.
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|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:15 pm|| |
I want to delete the previous post. it is one thing for people I know to discuss the idea of revisionism etc., but I don't like people I have no idea who they are posting a post like the one above. my name is attached to LiberatingMinds and I don't want to be associated with this stuff.
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|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:50 pm|| |
I searched for a line in the post and discovered that it has been spammed all over the internet. I definitely have no qualms with it being deleted.
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|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:47 am|| |
Please delete it.
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|Subject: Re: Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:09 am|| |
Holocaust Denial and Historical Revisionism