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Guest Guest
 | Subject: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:49 am | |
| what is with this quasi hegelian catholic creationism over there? i find it way philosophically weird and obscure than paleotrash. these people are clearly educated, but weird. iguess that's most libertarian intellectuals, though. |
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Conrad

Number of posts: 5647 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Registration date: 2007-07-21
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:00 am | |
| Hegelian catholic creationism?
can you say more about that? what article(s) do you have in mind?
Hegelian? On LRC? |
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Dylboz

Number of posts: 2159 Registration date: 2007-09-20
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:30 am | |
| He does provide a forum for a lot of Catholic anti-war and pro-market thinkers, because, I think, the Catholic and Jesuit institutions that might otherwise be open to these guys are uniformly behind the 3rd way espoused in the Catholic social doctrine, dripping with 19th century utopian Marxist theory, that has been building upon itself since Pope Leo XIII authored the Rerum Novarum in 1891. Vatican II and then John Paul took that bullshit even further, despite the crumbling of Poland's (his own country!) and the Soviet Union's massive experiments in state socialism. I guess they thought that the only thing missing from that brand of socialism (causing its failure) was a lack of faith in God. So Catholic socialism is bound to succeed! (  uh, not.) It is really a matter of diversity of opinion, and giving voice to a group of scholars not usually heard from, but Lew is Catholic, and so are a lot of the major Mises Institute guys. I understand they go to mass together in Auburn. By the way, I am not Catholic. I was raised mostly without religion, but what I was exposed to was Mormon. I just have had a lot of Catholic friends and find the history of the Church fascinating, especially since the rise of the modern nation-state. Pope's simply cannot resist the worldly power wielded by their secular counterparts in the high church of the state. _________________ Please check out my blog! Dylboznia |
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Stewart

Number of posts: 1202 Location: Boston, MA Registration date: 2008-04-02
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:54 am | |
| I'm normally turned off by religion, but I don't really mind that Lew Rockwell is a Catholic, and that he occasionally includes Christian content in his site and podcast. In fact, I was surprised by how much I enjoyed the podcast he did with Tom Woods about whether the Pope has any say over economic matters. Despite my obvious rejection of the premise of their subject, I thought they handled the topic in a pretty well-considered manner. It led me to think about the parallels that exist between the morality that people try to apply to economics from religious sources, and the morality that people try to apply to economics from secular (but still, ultimately, metaphysical) sources. In the end I found myself in total agreement with them: The Pope has no say over the laws of economics  |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:15 am | |
| | Stewart wrote: | It led me to think about the parallels that exist between the morality that people try to apply to economics from religious sources, and the morality that people try to apply to economics from secular (but still, ultimately, metaphysical) sources.
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Interesting thinking topic. You challenge me again.
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Bigus Dickus

Number of posts: 369 Location: Brazil Registration date: 2008-06-05
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:26 am | |
| I'm not crazy about religion either... it encourages an uncritical and unskeptical approach towards truth, much like socialism. It might ward off many potential libertarians who find things like lewrockwell and etc. But really, I care a lot less about it than I could... certainly less than the people in a certain webforum ou there... I mean, who's perfect? Hell, Bastiat was really religious, and he rocked. And I would definetely prefer a friend who's a christian and hardcore libertarian than one that's an atheist and statist. |
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Conrad

Number of posts: 5647 Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands Registration date: 2007-07-21
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:56 am | |
| Tom Woods is religious and he seems like a very nice and happy and smart guy |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:21 pm | |
| I just find the peculiar focus and doctrines these people seem to accept unreal. Especially when a well educated person with firm logical and historical understanding rejects evolution just because the government teaches it in school and it happens to fit with his religious views. Anti-evolution 'science' is worse than Keynes in terms of nonsensicality. |
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Kurious Guest
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Wed Jun 24, 2009 7:11 am | |
| Actually, the Catholic Church does in fact endorse evolution. It is one of the few christian groups that does. What I am annoyed by is the relative ignorance of those who criticize their teaching authority or teachings in general without understanding the foundational basis of the teachings or the depth of thought and morality involved in such teachings. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Wed Jun 24, 2009 5:22 pm | |
| | Kurious wrote: | | Actually, the Catholic Church does in fact endorse evolution. It is one of the few christian groups that does. What I am annoyed by is the relative ignorance of those who criticize their teaching authority or teachings in general without understanding the foundational basis of the teachings or the depth of thought and morality involved in such teachings. |
Well, the big problem with Catholics is that they believe in god. |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:49 pm | |
| | vichy wrote: | Well, the big problem with Catholics most of humanity is that they believe in god Magic. |
- NonE (does that include me?) |
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nelle
Number of posts: 628 Registration date: 2009-02-09
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:40 am | |
| Are the Catholics from those websites aggressive about pushing their own beliefs on others? Are the judgmental toward those who do not share their beliefs? |
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Guest Guest
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Thu Jun 25, 2009 4:32 am | |
| | nelle wrote: | | Are the Catholics from those websites aggressive about pushing their own beliefs on others? Are the judgmental toward those who do not share their beliefs? |
Catholics generally aren't very evangelical, at least outside of 3rd world countries. |
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Paul

Number of posts: 208 Age: 22 Location: Washington Registration date: 2009-02-06
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:44 am | |
| You guys are all missing the main point...
That website design is straight out of the 90s with its table design and fixed width columns.
Seriously, that website needs some rounded corners and shinny buttons, and dynamic width div sections; fluid design.
In philosophy, its all about style. That is why I won't read a book unless it has been published to Kindle.
EDIT: I didn't know it would read my HTML tags
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Dylboz

Number of posts: 2159 Registration date: 2007-09-20
 | Subject: Re: lew rockwell's site is weird Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:51 am | |
| I love it, it takes me back to those old Prodigy days of intarwebingz. _________________ Please check out my blog! Dylboznia |
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