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PostSubject: Re: Mises about Ayn Rand: "She's not a philosopher"   Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:11 am

Danny wrote:

See how that's...disgusting?


To whom are you directing that question, Danny? You obviously can't be directing it at vichy as she obviously can't see that it's disgusting. So what's your point? Are you just speaking to hear the sound of your own voice?

Note that I'm not intending to be mean here, I'm just trying to point out the illogicality of your position. I don't know what the answer is, and I don't see that you have anything convincing to offer either.

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PostSubject: Re: Mises about Ayn Rand: "She's not a philosopher"   Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:44 am

Haha obviously I wouldn't have asked if I thought there was no chance that she would agree...

And there's no illogicality present in my position, as far as I know. If you'd care to identify a fallacy, though, feel free to do so.
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PostSubject: Re: Mises about Ayn Rand: "She's not a philosopher"   Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:13 pm

If I were at all inclined to the sort of behaviour necessary to survive on the bureaucratic pelf system I probably would. I am not wedded to the Establishment because I lack the aptitude or inclination to be a lick-spittle.
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PostSubject: Re: Mises about Ayn Rand: "She's not a philosopher"   Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:43 am

Which brings us to the second reason for critiquing her epistemology: it represents—in a rather threadbare and skeletal form—the culmination of a number of trends in nineteenth- and twentieth-century philosophy, of which Rand was a good deal more representative than she thought. In particular, as surely as any positivist, Rand excoriated speculative metaphysics and theology (and indeed hardly bothered distinguishing between them), and attempted to give an account of reason that neither depended on any such woolly theorizing nor entailed anything much about the nature of reality. Quite apart from any desire to topple Rand from her pedestal, her work provides a chance to see where these trends lead in a fairly “pure” form without having to dig too hard to expose their difficulties; whatever her other vices, she at least wrote clearly enough to be found out. And as we shall see, she regarded herself as reacting against certain of these trends, while nevertheless buying wholesale into most of their basic premises; she was simply unaware of doing so, because she was not a particularly competent philosopher.
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PostSubject: Re: Mises about Ayn Rand: "She's not a philosopher"   Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:11 am

great quote Vichy!

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