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 | | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:15 am | |
| | Conrad wrote: | | ReIgNoFrAdNeSs wrote: |
Since CoR said:
"Who said moral propositions in UPB were allowed to have conjunctions?"
I asked him if he could define "moral proposition".
I've been trying to get a definition for months. If my "desire and power" proposition doesn't fit the definition, then I'll come up with another one that does.
It's not possible to validate the UPB validation process if we don't even know what it validates. |
UPB validates whatever Stef wants it to validate, dammit |
WTF? I think they deleted my question.
I didn't think stef deleted posts, but I swear it was there before, and now it's not. |
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Conrad
Number of posts: 5647
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Registration date: 2007-07-21
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:17 am | |
| banning, locking, deleting... all in a day's work for 'the most successful philosopher in the history of the world' |
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Conrad
Number of posts: 5647
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Registration date: 2007-07-21
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:26 am | |
| guess Stef just lost one of the few remaining YouTubers who had not yet become decidedly anti-Stef |
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Conrad
Number of posts: 5647
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Registration date: 2007-07-21
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:40 am | |
| and now that post by LibertyIsNotGiven (Eugene) in which he mentioned the deleting of another thread is now itself deleted |
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Danny
Number of posts: 979
Registration date: 2007-12-29
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:51 am | |
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Guest
Guest
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:59 am | |
| | Conrad wrote: | | and now that post by LibertyIsNotGiven (Eugene) in which he mentioned the deleting of another thread is now itself deleted |
Maybe stef will just delete the whole website so no one can critique it.
I do have a feeling that he might start copyrighting stuff (especially if people like myself keep playing actual clips of him saying retarded stuff). |
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Stewart
Number of posts: 1202
Location: Boston, MA
Registration date: 2008-04-02
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:19 am | |
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Guest
Guest
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:50 am | |
| UPB validates whatever Stef wants it to validate, dammit
Like most ethical theories, it seeks to 'prove' what the moralist presumes to be true. Typically it does this by having the conclusion built into the premise, but whether or not the argument actually succeeds in a technical manner is of a secondary concern. |
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Guest
Guest
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:58 am | |
| | vichy wrote: | UPB validates whatever Stef wants it to validate, dammit
Like most ethical theories, it seeks to 'prove' what the moralist presumes to be true. Typically it does this by having the conclusion built into the premise, but whether or not the argument actually succeeds in a technical manner is of a secondary concern. |
Yeah... I'm personally convinced that "moral terminology" is used to describe one of three things:
a) personal preference/opinion
b) basic pragmatism
c) basic pragmatism as it applies to the moralist's personal preferences/opinions
Usually however, this simple fact is concealed beneath several layers of fallacious argumentation.
The moral terminology seems to play an important role in the obfuscation process. There is absolutely no legitimate reason to use religious terminology (i.e. God, free will, moral, immoral) to describe anything. It can ONLY cause confusion. |
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Guest
Guest
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:00 am | |
| | Stewart wrote: | | Welcome to Stefantology. |
"Stefantology"
I love it! I'm going to steal that from you and use it all the time, k?
Did you draw your avatar Stewart? |
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Guest
Guest
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:12 am | |
| Yeah... I'm personally convinced that "moral terminology" is used to describe one of three things:
People do typically seem to have an actual feeling that certain things, somewhat socially constructed or peculiar to the individual, are actually 'right' or 'wrong'. That things are verbotten and required, in other words. It is logically nonsense, but reason essentially has a subsidiary role. Neither of these is surprising, given evolutionary biology/psychology. It's just what we might expect.
This, by the way, is not only a point about morality, but also humanist 'tabula rasa' and Greek 'rational man'.
Of course, rationality is still technically the only way to reason (which is not to say language is - our Broca's Brain is not our Brain). More or less, it's a matter of how much you care about knowing or, perhaps more importantly, don't care about the falsification of certain ideas. |
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Stewart
Number of posts: 1202
Location: Boston, MA
Registration date: 2008-04-02
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mole
Number of posts: 80
Registration date: 2008-05-03
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:05 am | |
| Nice to see you on here Shawn, been watching your videos for some time. Stef is so far up his own ass he can't even debate logically, let alone reasonably. It's a pleasure seeing you take him down a peg.
And to Conrad, or whoever it is that maintains the site, there's an add at the top of this page. I'm not sure how many of you see it but it's a fake dialog box proclaiming me the winner of something. Ordinarily I can ignore it but this one comes with the windows alert sound that keeps playing in an endless loop and it's annoying as fuck. Is there a way to mute those?
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Conrad
Number of posts: 5647
Location: Amsterdam, the Netherlands
Registration date: 2007-07-21
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:11 am | |
| | mole wrote: |
And to Conrad, or whoever it is that maintains the site, there's an add at the top of this page. I'm not sure how many of you see it but it's a fake dialog box proclaiming me the winner of something. Ordinarily I can ignore it but this one comes with the windows alert sound that keeps playing in an endless loop and it's annoying as fuck. Is there a way to mute those? |
I don't understand you. You get a message saying you won something and all you can think about is the sound that plays on the message?
Ungrateful bastard.
(I don;t know the ad you speak of btw, but I doubt the sound can be muted) |
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reddeerrick
Number of posts: 434
Location: Red Deer, Alberta
Registration date: 2007-10-16
| | Subject: Re: UPB: The slayer slain? Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:38 am | |
| The ads disappear when you log in. |
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