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Arthur



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PostSubject: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:45 am

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:08 am

Money problems for Stef, too bad! I'm sure the Philosopher Kings (an embarrassing a title as there can be) are also the Defoo kings. Giving money to Molyneux is a way to gain some absolution from the Ayatollah for sins past, present and future. - Kind of a secular sale of indulgences. Of course buying a title is nothing new in religion, polictics or academia.
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:16 am

I suggested to him that he try to get his books published. He never got back to me!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:06 am

CartesianTheist wrote:
I suggested to him that he try to get his books published. He never got back to me!!!

I don't get this holy grail of "published". Where does "being Published" via an investor/investors/Publishers-other-than-self guarantee everything? OK, so it CAN, but in contrast so CAN a "unofficially"/self-published book (not to even get into how "investor" is defined, relative to Stef/FDR). What's the odds Galileo would have found a Publisher? [and I'm NOT implying Stef is onto any Galileoistic-level proofs; nada]
Not to even get into examining the plethora of "official" ("Published") books that lose money/languish --like sales (including to Universities/Colleges/Peers) has much to do with guaranteeing specific/topical facts.

What's bad about self-publishing and making that the form that's available for "Peer Review" via offering it as free to obtain? [e.g. see Danny's "peer" review of UPB? see posts on this, and other forums? perhaps the Review process in the midst of a Net change?]

These type comments ring of pious-to-elitist smear-attempt to my eye (noting the "!!!"s).

[one google-quick example FWIW: http://www.writersdigest.com/article/self_pub_non5]
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:24 pm

Please chill eye2i2!!

I suggested the publishing route so he could actually make some money from his writing.

I would submit [having read two of his books] that the reason they're not published has nothing to do with the content but everything to do with the form.

They are written as 13 year olds write. [viz, in very small unconnected paragraphs that are not sequential]. They are not written properly I'm afraid to tell you. That is their problem. This is nothing to do with being pious or elitist btw.
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:42 pm

They need a severe and unforgiving editor. Molyneux's ego would crumble in the face of such criticism, and we're just talking about his writing style, to say nothing of the ideas therein. I've given "On Truth" to two people, and both were driven to apoplexy and painful headaches when trying to read it. I found that just skipping around (say, flipping open to a random page when copping your morning squat) was just as effective as trying to read it start to finish.

My dog ate "UPB" before I could finish the whole thing, and by then, I wasn't giving him any more money.

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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:02 pm

Dylboz wrote:
They need a severe and unforgiving editor.
My dog ate "UPB" before I could finish the whole thing, and by then, I wasn't giving him any more money.


Hahaha. Classic Dylboz! I hope your dog was okay and did not suffer any adverse medical conditions as a consequence?

I just wish I could get those two hours of my life back again!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:20 am

Oh Dylboz allowing your dog to devour Moly's work must constitute "Abuse" on several levels. Next you will find that the pooch has defooed you.
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:28 am

The Sunday Show is now open forum. Anyone can call in. Stef is advertising and giving out a toll free number, hoping to get new blood into the community. It seems that numbers (and likewise donations) may be down at the moment.

Dyl - if you dog defoo's you, perhaps we can hook her up with doggie therapy. Just let us know if we can help. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:44 am

Was the Sunday Show not an open forum before? I only heard about it recently and tuned in once on the 9th - the day the "new format" came out. How was it originally?
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PostSubject: Re: Molyneux's Donation Problem   Mon Aug 17, 2009 10:58 am

When I was a member, a person had to arrange to be allowed to call in. I knew someone who paid to be allowed to call in (actually someone paid for her to be allowed to call in). It was all pre-arranged.
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