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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:10 am

I'm sorry Conrad. You have my respect for other reasons but on this not. I don't get this balance thing at all. If I know that a certain name being used in such a way offended you because that name was something precious to you I would do my best not to use it. Strange how we don't use 'Muhammed' in that way eh?!
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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:18 am

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I'm sorry Conrad. You have my respect for other reasons but on this not. I don't get this balance thing at all. If I know that a certain name being used in such a way offended you because that name was something precious to you I would do my best not to use it.

I can see that, but for me this use is fairly innocuous, I'm not saying anything insulting or using swear words in connection with it. For me that is acceptable, for you it isn't. I may try to think of an alternative that avoids these problems yet is as funny (for me anyway) so I am willing to do something as a gesture, but as long as/if I don't find such an alternative I will likely continue to use it.

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Strange how we don't use 'Muhammed' in that way eh?!

well, that probably mostly has a cultural reason ('Muhammed' has not really been part of our culture and language for very long, and so does not have the same 'spirit')
FWIW, Muhammed seems to be quite a loathsome figure, who was a pedophile and a warrior.

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:19 am

Conrad,
I appreciate what you're saying. And your offer to respond by not using it would be very kind of you indeed. The intention on my part is not to censor people [I hope you know that] but rather to point out that there are things which needlessly offend and I'm just not the sort of person to be quiet about it!

I see that there is no malicious intent behind your usage [unlike some others who then decided to do it all the more and rejoiced in offending others which is really very telling about their characters] and that makes a difference to be sure.

You are clearly right about the cultural issue. But it still seems odd to me that North America is so supposedly Christian in character yet it seems cultural there to blaspheme infinitely. Where do you get this idea about Muhammed being a paedophile? Never come across that before.
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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:47 am

One of my very favorite expressions was used in a forum over ten years ago and I'm STILL laughing: Jesus H. Christ in a frying pan!

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:21 pm

The irony is, by throwing this little temper tantrum, you've inspired far more "blasphemy" than would have otherwise occurred herein, not to mention the total threadjacking you accomplished.

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:19 pm

Oh but he's SPECIAL, Dyl. He has a RIGHT to demand that others kiss his ass and revere his whack-a-loon fantasies, don't you see? Just like the other whack-a-loon types who feel compelled to kill any women* who don't bow and cover and act sufficiently subservient to their men. It's the word of GOD fer krisakes. You wouldn't want to question THAT, would you?

- NonE

* Did you see the local (Phoenix, I think) news story yesterday or the day before about the father who tried to run over and kill his own daughter because she was becoming too 'westernized?' Jesus H. Christ in a frying pan. Yep, certainly fills me with respect and shit.
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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:23 pm

well, that probably mostly has a cultural reason ('Muhammed' has not really been part of our culture and language for very long, and so does not have the same 'spirit')
FWIW, Muhammed seems to be quite a loathsome figure, who was a pedophile and a warrior.


I suppose that means that the vast majority of males before 1700ADish could be seen in the same light.
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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:50 am

Bach_is_dead wrote:
well, that probably mostly has a cultural reason ('Muhammed' has not really been part of our culture and language for very long, and so does not have the same 'spirit')
FWIW, Muhammed seems to be quite a loathsome figure, who was a pedophile and a warrior.


I suppose that means that the vast majority of males before 1700ADish could be seen in the same light.
Damn, that's a good point. Socrates could certainly be seen in that light, but I still enjoy his philosophy.

Um, what was this thread about, again...?

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:13 am

Oh, right! This thread is about a dude who quit his government paid job because it's supposedly immoral to take stuff from the government.

I wonder if he's gonna stop using public roads and whatnot...

If the Mafia offers you some money or services, I say take it. I mean, if they want you to whack a guy, that's an offer you should refuse. But if they'll pay you $100 just to sweep the floors or something, go for it. It's better than letting them keep it to do what they will with it.

I mean, if this guy wants to find a job that has nothing to do with the government, he'll probably have to go black market. Not saying anything is wrong with that, of course. But pretty much every business in the white market is a corporation or LLC, which means they had to sign on with the government and get at least a few perks out of it.

And if this guy agrees with Stef's liberal stance on immigration, he's still being hypocritical. There is nothing wrong with Stef's stance on immigration, in my opinion. However, one of the main arguments against immigration is that undocumented immigrants use government services like roads and schools, but they are freeloading because they don't pay in to the system through taxes. If you are against taking a government job because you are leeching off the system, you'd have to be against what undocumented immigrants are doing also.

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:40 am

Dylboz, you're being childish
NonE, you're being histrionic
Stewart, you're being hypocritical
CartesianTheist, you're being a pussy
Conrad, alright!

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:48 am

I'm telling!

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:08 pm

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Strange how we don't use 'Muhammed' in that way eh?!

Not a day goes by when I don't ridicule the Christ, Muhammed, God, Allah, the Dalai Lameass or one of those mumbling retard pagans. I can see no reason why anyone should have more respect for your superstitions than for those of socialists or idiots who think kung-fu gives you magic powers.

Just because your imaginary superhero is somewhat popular doesn't make it any more real, reasonable or respectable. Fuck popular opinions, they're always wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:39 pm

Laird, you're being nondescript
Vichy, you're being Aspergy
Conrad, still alright!

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:39 pm

btw Stewart, you were being hypocritical because threadjacking is quite common and I'm not even sure whether this was a good example of it.

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PostSubject: Re: jesus.   Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:20 am

Conrad wrote:
Laird, you're being nondescript
Vichy, you're being Aspergy
QuestEon, jesus, you're witty!
Conrad, still alright!


Please, you're making me blush.
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