One of the possible effects of spending large amounts of time listening to podcasts can be anger.

"Tritone" puts it very well in this post:


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Thu, Mar 4 2010 4:10 PM

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After staying up a lot and going through a good portion of the pod casts over a couple weeks, i feel a great new sense of freedom, like i have never felt before--and I have been looking for many years. It's amazing how simple it all is really. I can't thank Steph enough for sharing this wisdom, and at no charge.

Anyway, with this freedom has come even more anger and frustration for me. Anger at my family. Anger at the many people who i come in contact with who feel superior to me. This is nothing new, it just has an intense clarity now. I'm sure this is typical of anyone who has had their eyes opened. I was wondering how you guys deal with it. Are there any podcasts on the subject of anger? Usually these angry phases are followed by depression, which I want to avoid.

Thanks!

-B






Thu, Mar 4 2010 5:00 PM In reply to

MrCapitalism

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I used to get very angry whenever I saw a cop car drive by..



I suggest you continue RTR'ing. That'll stop the depression before it happens...



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Copyright 2005-2009 By Stefan Molyneux

Hello Eye212,

I would say that none of your provided choices would fit what I am doing.

I am merely observing. This person states that when he/she listens to podcasts for prolonged periods of time, he/she feels anger and frustration, followed by periods of depression. To me, this is very interesting. I do not find this to be a pleasant result.

Thank you.
nelle

Interesting.
That's not what I 'observe' in the post actually.
Seems there's either an elephant or a monkey (or two) in the proverbial room? [here and here]

I hear you saying you observe P causing A, where P is prolonged listening to podcasts and A is anger, the result of such Peeing [sic].
I hear the poster saying I resulted in A, where I is Insight --what the poster called having "eyes opened"-- obtained in the podcasts expediently listened to, and A is anger, a very natural, if not normal reaction to such eye opening.

Learning one has been misled/duped/manipulated/conned/etc, and that such is the cult'ure you find yourself immersed in, regardless of how "prolonged"/intense the process was, naturally can if not normally does result in anger (the emotion/the feelings).

Not easily or readily seeing ways to change such a State of minds United easily lends to depression.

The emotions of anger and depression thus being the next phase of the work ie eyes opened further/longer. Precisely why he posted and asked about just that? [whether the poster will find working through ("prolonged" or otherwise) learning how to handle the anger and the depression equally as "simple", only time would tell]

In support of my observation, I'd offer these specific words of the poster-- duly noting, that it could be self-encouragement or anticipated 'group-speak':

Quote:

...i feel a great new sense of freedom... and I have been looking for many years. It's amazing... an intense clarity now...

All that we have are the words, the poster's word for it; apart from our crystal Stefban swami-smarmy balls (our 'better' version of such?)...

FWIW, the area that I would like to hear the poster expound upon is:

Quote:

It's amazing how simple it all is really.

From my experience with StefBlack&White, hearing the poster say that makes me... angry!?!... But I'll hold that in check until I hear more about what he intends by "simple"...

Interesting.

The poster, a couple of posts down in the same thread also says that he is feeling "sort of disconnected, numb, spaced out over the past couple of weeks as i process this new information".

It just fascinates me to have a birdseye view as to how processing the new fdr information is affecting this person. In my view, it does not sound healthy. Perhaps even a window as to how Stef gets in to wield his influence.

"Stefban swami-smarmy balls"


!!! TMI !!! TMI !!!

- NonE

naw, NonSchweddy, that would only be if I'd included "schweaty"...

(unless you meant "Three Mile Island", right? right-right.)

Remember Tess? I loved her last post as she was announcing her "hiatus", and she has not returned. As a matter of fact, I believe she has cut all ties with fdr members.

QUOTE - TESS:
Hiatus
Just wanted to let those people who've been so friendly towards me that I'm going to be taking a break from FDR. As predicted by Stef and many others, the argument from morality has caused ructions in my life. It's changing who I am and how I behave in ways that are incompatible with current friendships and relationships. It's shown me who I really am in areas where I had been lying to myself. What I see is not pleasant. The anger i had previously suppressed is now at the surface and it's unfair on my boyfriend who doesn't understand and just thinks it's me turning into a selfish nasty b&^%h. (Personally I just think he's seeing the real me for the first time - I had such a talented false self). So for the time being (or until my relationship ends) I'm just going to focus on therapy and stay away from FDR. Thank you to all of you. It's been amazing and I wish you every happiness for the future!
End Quote

Interesting that Tess brings up that she was also affected in ways that caused her to experience anger and behavior that was "incompatible with current friendships and relationships". She also says, "What I see is not pleasant". Seems to be a very common effect of involvement with FDR.

I know the feeling.

That makes two of us. The influence of fdr friend(s), books, pocasts, etc nearly destroyed my life. That's why I am bringing this up.

Nice to see eye2i2 still obsessing over issues of semantics! I think it always makes an argument sound much better when you replace simple words for letters unnecessarily. Why let w get in the way when we can c1 matters by an abstruse process of replacing simple w with l unnecessarily?

I hear you saying z when Nelle was saying x as if the two conflict with each other whereas you have not considered the conflation of zx which is not dependent upon y which you impede upon proceedings due to s and ap.

[z being your contention that I resulted in A]
[x = Nelle's contention that P caused A]
[y being your presupposition that z and x are incompatable]
[s = shortsightedness]
[ap = the commitment to being deliberately awkward and pernickety]
[w being words]
[c1 is a process of confussing matters unduly]
[l being letters]

My mind just imploded!

Hahahahaha!

Spending large amounts of time doing ANYTHING tends to make me feel rather miserable. (I'm more of an internalizing type, but the equivalent reaction for an externalizing person might be anger.) Particularly when I'm indoors and away from other people. Just thought I'd point that out.

There's also the strong possibility that it's not A or B, but some combination of the two. I say that because people here recognize that Stefan's work is not completely good/enlightening/etc., in that he says some things that are rather misleading or not well thought out. On the other hand, I think most people would agree that it's not the case that his work has no merit. It can introduce people to ideas they may not have thought about before, in a pretty convincing manner. To the extent that he achieves the latter, his podcasts could provoke anger of the "good" sort in people. To the extent that he's misleading them (e.g. with regard to their beliefs about their families), he could provoke anger of the "bad" sort. This is necessarily going to be personal, because it depends on what parts of his message people focus on. This is true in general, in that different people listening to the same speech or reading the same book may get different things out of it. And it's particularly true with FDR, where there is such a huge number of podcasts that people are able to pick and choose from. Aside from the handful of people of people who have listened to every podcast, no two people have had exactly the same experience of FDR's message.