Is FDR cruel?

Subject: Re: Is FDR cruel? Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:34 pm

Don't expect any niceness from stef
he is not one for that

and conrad, on your note about vulnerable youngsters, ill say that one is true
i was 16 wheni started in with stef and defooed from my mom

worst decision i could have made at the time

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sutible4livestok wrote:

Don't expect any niceness from stef
he is not one for that

and conrad, on your note about vulnerable youngsters, ill say that one is true
i was 16 wheni started in with stef and defooed from my mom

worst decision i could have made at the time

sutible4livestok are you now back and having a relationship with your mom?

Why do you think that was the worst decision at the time?

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Conrad wrote:

Christina is about the same age as Stef and I don't think her personal pre-Stef history was ever discussed, other than family & education & career.

Okay, I did not know that. I'll go back to the podcasts I've downloaded, but it seemed to me in the few places he and Christina have mentioned anything personal about her, I fixed her in her early/mid-twenties. It made sense to me because it fit a pattern similar to what is now happening to the young people who come to freedomainradio.

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I listened to two defoo-related podcasts last week and was reminded of just how manipulative and dangerous Stef is, how he pushes his own agenda onto vulnerable youngsters, and how downright insane he can sound during such podcasts

Agreed. I've listened to so many that I can almost predict the questions he's going to ask next. It's the danger of amateur psychology. He's so certain he has the "answer," I don't think he or his supplicant realizes he's force feeding them.

I prefer his "solo" videos and podcasts.

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Looks like johnsmith is begging for banning now on that thread. Wonder where that will go...

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QuestEon wrote:

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Do you know what it reminded me of? FDR 451 and 452--the podcasts that dealt with a letter from Christina's family.

In FDR 451/452, Christina reads a letter from her family and then she and Stef analyze it. All I hear in that letter is a heartbroken family desperate to see someone who has been gone for years. Stef and Christina see hypocrisy and manipulation in every line, and I just don't see it. All the while, they laugh at the pain they're causing almost like two adolescents doing something naughty. I'm listening to it again right now, and I have to say their heartlessness sounds repulsive.

I very quickly listened to these two podcasts and I have to say what I found the weirdest was this statement "all they(they being Christina's parents) have to do to get Christina back is go to therapy and life will be wonderful, we can be one big happy family again". Aside from Stef qualifying Christina's credentials at nauseaum, his complaints of spending time with her family and how he had little in common with them etc. what was glaring was this eerie superior righteousness they both had.

Additionally Stef's omniscient breakdown of the letter was annoying.

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ExyPhylo wrote:

...what I found the weirdest was this statement "all they (they being Christina's parents) have to do to get Christina back is go to therapy and life will be wonderful, we can be one big happy family again".

Is that a common thing with Stef? I've heard him do it twice in podcasts and read it before. In order to illustrate how ridiculous parents are, he'll start with ths argument: "What's incredible is that all they have to do is.... and everything would change, right?"

I think he assumes he has picked something that person wouldn't do, but if they actually DID do it, I expect he would change the criteria again.

I'll bet money that Christina's family will never see a signed contract from Stef stating that if they attend a few weeks of therapy, Christina will come back and all will be well. Do those parents know that's all it would take? Have Stef and Christina told them? If Stef was as good as his word--hell, give me their phone number and I'LL call those suffering people and tell them!

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Luckily I have no idea if this particular statement was/is a common thing with Stef. Nothing would change as he knows full well no amount of therapy will ever prepare them for Stef's interrogation.

I doubt therapy was fully explained and if at all simply stated "we will talk to you after you get some therapy." Further he would not advise them "we will recommence relations with you once you have passed our rigorous screening and have decided you are now suitable to associate with. Should you pass we agree to do x, y and z but not a, b and d" etc. and further should l, m and n enter the equation you will be banned resulting in the immediate discontinuation of your access to my wife"

Even so if that was the case with the rising costs of FDR they would now have pay .50$ a phone call then later upgrade to gold status then they could send greeting cards and have the Molyneux's present for desert during one family dinner. Of course this would have an annual expiration date. Razz

Subject: Re: Is FDR cruel? Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:55 am

sutible4livestok wrote:

i was 16 wheni started in with stef and defooed from my mom

worst decision i could have made at the time

sutible4livestok, I'm sorry to hear that. How long ago was it? Having learned and experienced more since then, have you re-commenced your relationship with your mom? If so, how did it happen and what was it like?

Eddie1

Subject: Re: Is FDR cruel? Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:13 am

BTW I am Johnsmith

Subject: Re: Is FDR cruel? Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:14 am

Also, Yea im back on ok terms with my mom and it went fine getting back with them (she and my grandparents) I just wish FDR hadnt fucked over a year of my life.

Guest

This reminds me of one of my favorite acronyms: AFLE*.

Congratulations on getting your life back.

- NonE

* ( Another Fucking Learning Experience!)

Subject: Re: Is FDR cruel? Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:45 pm

I'm glad for you that you were smart, strong, and brave enough to correct your mistake. It does suck that you were misled into making decisions that messed up a year of your life (or maybe you weren't misled but just chose a bad mentor), but since it's unchangeable now, good luck moving forward.

[Edit] Doh - NonE beat me. AFLE indeed!

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Subject: Re: Is FDR cruel? Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:08 pm

It was painful to listen how Stefan manipulated Colleen. It was painful to hear that she had no opinion of her own, but passively and submissively allowed herself to sink under his strong control. I had to stop listening, because it literally made me sick in my stomach. What is about that man that keeps him going? What is about those people who follow his manipulative mind, listen to his twisted and mean suggestions, without trying to step out of his mind, and step into theirs? Pardon me if I'm out of line, since I listened only to several Stefan's podcasts, and just now couldn't gather my patience to hear the entire episode w/Colleen. I just had it enough from a little I've heard. I can't stand his voice (both color and rhythm), his stubborn conviction of his false righteousness, his superiour position where he is sitting on the top of hierarchy pyramid, while everybody else is miles down. From the top, he can see better his obeying crowd, and if somebody does something that doesn't suit their master, he'll take that whip and ban you from his private property. No matter how great his philosophy is, I refuse to hear any of it. Knowing this much about his character is enough for me to not to care what good he has to say.

So far, I haven't commented on anything about Stef, but have noticed that he has been very much indeed discussed subject of this forum. This time I couldn't resist because it made me so sorry for this young woman who turned to him for help.

Welcome to the forum, QuestEon. I hope you find only good stuff here.

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