ah, but we have nothing to hide or avoid, so why would we want to ban him?

jw


also, he posted all sorts of m personal info just follow the link above

yeah, but you kinda challenged him there ('prove it'), so it is not like he posted that stuff just for the hell of it. I don't know, I'd suggest to just drop it, nothing good can come out of it

Well subtle sorry that happened to you. Timing? (non) he read liberating minds and with so many John Smiths did some investigation. Odd he was so certain earlier in that thread that John Smith and RHunt were the same person in that thread. (coincidence? non) The good news Subtle is you inadvertently help Stef make RHunt more noteworthy and credible and showed that Stef too jumps to conclusions.

Quite frankly his need to call you out and show alternative evidence is shitty. You would think someone wise, mature and together as Stef wouldn't give a shit if some one signs in under a different name. Besides the questions you raised were harmless. I suppose if he does care he should remove us all from his membership list and quit falsifying the counts to be less misleading to new members.

Anyway you can report him to Community Server for abuse of privacy etc. If you indicated your info be private whether you asked him to prove it or not he is obligated to keep it private. Seeing he did not notify you or get your permission and has no terms (rules), you have some recourse.

Eh, I am truly not worried about it if he will just take it down

been banned and told that the info will not be taken down

Molyneux, since I know you read this forum here it goes.

Take down my personal information or I will ind some recourse against your site and provide ample information to get it taken down,

Rob,

check your PM. also, I am not sure how to construe your 'by force if necessary' remark.

I assume you mean legal recourse on the basis of a supposed (implicit or explicit) contract re privacy.

I don't think that's a good or fair idea in general (see PM) and that there are other ways to resolve this issue. Moreover, I feel uncomfortable, to say the least, with a remark like that on LM.

Half the stuff I write re:FDR is meant to inflame their passions to the point where they will actually engage in a forum where they don't have the power to kick ban anyone. Or, carry it back to Stef, who will roll his eyes and act like it doesn't get to him, but I know it does, because it worms it's way into his podcasts. I don't subscribe to the feeds anymore, but I know when his videos drop because they get attention in the libertarian blogosphere and web forums. I notice that he feels obligated to address criticisms (or casually and insultingly dismiss their articulators) that originate here or from LiMi members posting comments to his YouTube vids.

When I said I was just an angry man, I meant it. I am angry at Stef, as one more in a long line of people who used a bait and switch, another who managed to be corrupted by the small amount of power given him by his listeners, another who lies and calls it virtue, another who cannot admit error and protects his ego no matter the cost to others. In short, the embodiment of every one of my own (and most people's) worst qualities, yet completely without the self-awareness regarding these negatives necessary to make even the slightest attempt at reigning them in.

That whole Family Guy episode was just miserable, but eye-opening. It was motivated by his personal antipathy for Conrad (never communicated to the FDR community), yet it was transmogrified into a moral judgement, dripping with contempt for all of us who watch and enjoy the show. Cartoons as the yardstick by which our very souls can be measured.

The listener conversation that followed showed me just how manipulative Stef can be under the guise of RTR. He totally evaded the actual, factual underpinnings of the conflict and twisted things around so that the listener, not Stef, was judged to have reacted inappropriately. Never mind that Stef's dishonesty and hypocrisy was the cause of the reaction, that was never even addressed after a casual dismissal of it's relevance at the beginning. This is the extent to which he will go to avoid acknowledging error and protect his aura of omniscience and superiority.

No wonder the listener felt unsatisfied and vaguely screwed up afterward, unfortunately he mistook this as his own deficiency, rather than looking deeper into what had just happened, and this feeling of failure and unworthiness drew him closer to Stef as he sought to redeem himself, rather than repudiate the major mind-fuck he'd just been savagely dealt through his emotional backdoor.

So there. I'm still pissed about that. Hence my continued involvement in these threads. I'm sure Nielsio will heap some more derision on my head (if he's still visiting this forum) for still harboring resentment lo, these many moons on, but what can I say, I'm a world class grudge-holder. It really makes me mad that he's got a bunch of adoring fans when he's just as human and fallible as any of us, perhaps more-so, since he has sought out this influence and power over others. One has to wonder, to what end? If it were just the money, there'd be no need for the kind of micro-managing he does in their lives and relationships. He could just sell his oracular pronouncements in book form and let them do most of the talking, while occasionally doing the fly-by psychologizing he so enjoys between podcasts, to keep things interesting. But no, he is so much LESS interested in philosophy now, and so much MORE interested in tearing families apart and making people's career decisions for them, etc. All this control and dependence -at the listener's expense, no less!- is so unlibertarian, too.

Whenever I go to the FDR forum, I see these poor, sad people dumping their life stories out and kind of saying, "fix me, please." And they get the deFOO package, a one-size-fits-all approach. It's like L. Ron's communication rundown. There's another favorite villain of mine, man I hate Scientology. And something about Stef and FDR seems to tweak all the same nerves as the Co$. ARGH!!!